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politicus
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« on: March 08, 2012, 12:55:59 PM »

What do you think would have happened if the White Russians had defeated the Reds in the Russian Civil War? Most of their leaders where absolutistic and antisemitic. But there where also lots of personal and ideological differences between the leaders.

1. New civil war between WR commanders (war lord scenario like China in the 1920s)
2. Absolute monarchy reestablished
3. Constitutional monarchy
4. Military dictatorship with Russian style fascism
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2012, 12:00:47 PM »
« Edited: March 10, 2012, 12:22:49 PM by politicus »

Their only real chance was in 1919. The North-west army under Yudenich takes St. Petersburg and captures Trotsky after victory in the battle of the Pulkov heights. Which allows Denikin's offensive from the Caucasus to be successful and conquer Moscow. Then you have two commanders controlling each of the two main cities and admiral Kolchak' s royalist government in Omsk in Siberia being intact. Both Denikin and Yudenich recognized Kolchak's government. But they would be tempted to go it alone IMO.
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 08:06:15 PM »

Only if you assume that a White Russian regime would be aggressive and would have the resources to go on the offensive after a long civil war. They might reconquer Finland and the Baltic countries and maybe Poland if Britain and France doesn't want to help those countries.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 10:31:11 PM »
« Edited: March 12, 2012, 10:43:22 PM by politicus »

The Romanov's weren't extinct.  There are still members of the family alive today. Kolchak was officially committed to reestablishing the monarchy. So you can't rule out, that he would have tried to do so. Maybe in a construction like Franco/Juan Carlos where a younger member of the former ruling dynasty would be chosen to succeed him as head of state after his death, while he would remain regent for life.
Denikin was not a royalist, so it dependens which one of them would come out on top after a power struggle, but Kolchak had the advantage of being the recognized White leader by all major commanders - including Denikin. So it would have been problematic to challenge him outright.
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