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« on: March 03, 2005, 02:10:31 AM »

I think this man has done a lot more than deny the holocaust. I think you should do more research before you jump to conclusions. Last I checked, freedom of speech as an integral part of our constitution.
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2005, 09:19:49 PM »
« Edited: March 04, 2005, 09:22:47 PM by EarlAW »

Before we jump to conclusions, are we sure that the only thing this guy did was deny the holocaust? If it's just that, then it's a bit odd to say the least, but there likely is more to the story.

All signs point to us not having jumped to the wrong conclusion - he is indeed being jailed for simply having denied the holocaust.

The Supreme Court of Canada in 1991 made a decision saying that such an action would be unconstitutional. Note: he was deported for inciting hatred, not denying the holocaust. I am pretty certain that if I went out and denied the holocaust I would not be jailed.

I would also like to say that the US has a lot less freedom of speech than in Canada. I hear a lot about how religious Conservative groups are banning this that and the kitchen sink for promoting homosexuality.  It may not be the government doing it but special interest groups sure are- and that does lead to government policy.

It should also be noted that Zundel was also arrested in the United States in the past, he has links with violent neo-nazi organizations and he wanted in Germany for hate crimes.
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2005, 02:01:15 PM »

Stop lying. Zundel was kicked out of the US because of his views-- he's not a US citizen, his visa was up, and they wouldn't renew it.

He didn't "incite" anything. Canadian communist judges declared that "denying" any part of the Holocaust automatically constitutes "inciting" hate against Jews, though of course that is pure nonsense since claiming they didn't die is merely challenging the historical record, and by extension actually is anti-violence.

Further, the crimes Germany will charge him with are the same-- "inciting" "hate" by questioning certain specifics of concentration camp design and size.

By claiming he has links to violent groups or has committed some kind of violence, you are blatantly lying in a silly, amateur attempt to make Canada look like something other than an anti-free speech country. Next time, research basic facts of the case so your lies will be a little more convincing.

I did do research in fact, and if I am incorrect, it is not because I am a liar, but that someone else did. You can see where I did my research at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Zundel

Plus, you forgot to address the 1991 Supreme Court Decision which made denying the holocaust constitutional.
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