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« on: May 25, 2012, 03:48:19 PM »

So, this has made international news, has it?

One of my co-workers who goes to the university in Gatineau was complaining about not being able to go to school.
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2012, 10:49:51 AM »

Apparently there were protests in NYC in solidarity as well. Have you done any protesting, Max?
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2012, 03:24:06 PM »

Have you done any protesting, Max?

I did the March 22 one and one in Sherbrooke with the FAÉCUM in Sherbrooke.

The one with all the arrests? Good that you didn't get in trouble.
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2012, 09:10:02 AM »

If another federalist party came around, it would bring the PLQ under 30%. Perhaps if the PVQ had any credibility...
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2012, 05:59:16 PM »

Are there any polls of Quebec since the protests began?

Yes, many. Averages:

PLQ: Low 30s
PQ: Low 30s (averaging maybe 1% behind the Liberals)
CAQ ~20%
QS: ~10%
PVQ ~5%
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2012, 06:34:14 PM »

My initial reaction is that they are spoiled brats.

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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2012, 08:12:04 PM »

As usual, Marokai hits the nail on the head.

And not only is it a protest of corruption in Quebec, but it's about a new global class structure that is beginning to develop.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2012, 11:09:08 PM »

There is so much wrong with the paragraph, I don't even know where to begin. I guess I won't.

But, it's our lack of understanding, our lack of empathy that will create the greater schisms over the next few decades. Instead of throwing the middle and working classes some bones, they are getting more and more nothing. And they're only going to get more angry.
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2012, 10:07:58 PM »

This thread is the reason why I'm not a fan of talking Canadian politics. Most Canadians, especially young Canadians, are so conditioned to want more, more, more from the government. That attitude really creates an unwelcoming environment for those of us with libertarian or free market views. There's not even a foundation for us to make our points because government is just so huge--the CPC, to me, is even a left-wing party.

Venting aside, I tend to be with Torie on this one. I have no sympathy for the students in Quebec. I'd like to see them pay for tuition in Ontario universities. Compared to us, their education is practically handed to them out of public coffers.

I'd rather see Ontario students pay the same tuition as Quebec students.  But I agree. It's best you libertarians stay out of talking Canadian politics. Or politics in general for that matter.
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2012, 11:02:04 AM »

This thread is the reason why I'm not a fan of talking Canadian politics. Most Canadians, especially young Canadians, are so conditioned to want more, more, more from the government. That attitude really creates an unwelcoming environment for those of us with libertarian or free market views. There's not even a foundation for us to make our points because government is just so huge--the CPC, to me, is even a left-wing party.

Venting aside, I tend to be with Torie on this one. I have no sympathy for the students in Quebec. I'd like to see them pay for tuition in Ontario universities. Compared to us, their education is practically handed to them out of public coffers.

But I agree. It's best you libertarians stay out of talking Canadian politics. Or politics in general for that matter.

Case in point. Have I been rude to you?

Perhaps not personally, but Libertarianism is in itself an ideology that I find quite rude to me.

And I associate the Conservative "tough on crime" crap as left-wing... in the sense that it costs an irresponsible amount of money

Time to go back to politics class. A tough on crime agenda may not be a Libertarian friendly position, but that doesn't mean it's left wing.


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