Bow Chicka Bow Wow Bill (Debating)

[Hatman 🍁]

I urge the Senate to pass this bill. Anyone who opposes this is probably a hypocrite. We all looked at porn when we were under 18. And if you somehow managed to avoid it, then please understand that most teenagers do. Let's not be hypocrites here.

[Hatman 🍁]

I urge the Senate to pass this bill. Anyone who opposes this is probably a hypocrite. We all looked at porn when we were under 18. And if you somehow managed to avoid it, then please understand that most teenagers do. Let's not be hypocrites here.

That doesn't make us hypocrites. I drink, I'm 18, and I support a 21 legal age.

Not only are you a hypocrite, you're an idiot.

[Hatman 🍁]

If you're against this bill, your ACLU membership should be revoked.

[Hatman 🍁]

If you're against this bill, your ACLU NAMBLA membership should be revoked.

Corrected. The ACLU doesn't support 14-17 year olds drinking, voting, having access to porn, or joining the military. Kids have rights, but obviously not the same full freedoms as adults. Full legal access to porn is one of the last of these rights that any adolecent should "enjoy".

What does NAMBLA have to do with kids looking at porn?

I can't believe there is this much opposition to this bill. WE ALL LOOKED AT PORN AS TEENAGERS. IF YOU ARE AGAINST THIS BILL YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE.

I am utterly confused at the level of hypocrisy here. There are people with red avatars that are against this? I am honestly really confused. None of your arguments make any sense. Making the age of 18 the age to look at porn is pretty arbitrary to boot. Age restrictions in general are pretty arbitrary, but that's another argument.

[Hatman 🍁]

The fact that I looked at porn as a a teenager doesn't make me a hypocrite, either.  I also smoked and drank at that age, does it make me a hyopcrite not to advocate lowering the smoking and drinking age? 

Yes it does.

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No, it's not. This is prudery BS at it's worst.

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Why are we to waste precious resources on it then?

I for one admit to looking at porn when I was a teenager, and I don't want the Senate telling me what I did was illegal. There was nothing wrong with what I did. I don't understand this mentality of hypocrisy and the denial of it afterwards. Hypocrisy is doing one thing and saying another. You admitted to looking at porn as a teenager, and now you say it's wrong. It's soooo easy to say that now. I wonder how 14 year old Fritz would think?

Shame on anyone who opposes this bill! Shame!

[Hatman 🍁]

By the way Fritz, as a gay person, you of all people should understand the importance of keeping the state out of the affairs of the bedroom and about liberalizing sex laws.

Society is too prudish when it comes to sex. It forces it underground, especially with teenagers.
"They're not supposed to be looking at porn." Well let's face it, teenagers going through puberty need porn the most. Their hormones are going wild. They need an outlet. It's better they buy porn than rape little Suzie down the street and ruin not only poor Suzie's life but his life as well. I firmly believe that pornography actually helps to hinder sexual assuaut, as it acts as an outlet for would-be assaultists. Especially those whose hormones are going wild.

Let's think for a moment. When are we the least horny? Right after orgasm. If we make it easier for teenagers to orgasm in a safe way, then that's one less girl getting raped.

And I think we can all agree that addiction to pornography is better than sex addiction. And let's face it, it's the same types of people that fall in either group.

[Hatman 🍁]

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This would seem to indicate that a teenager looking at porn is more likely to commit rape.  Your assertation that porn "hinders sexual assualt" is total bullsh**t.  It encourages sexual assult.

My argument is not bullsh**t. Please read my reasoning. It makes perfect sense. Sexual assault is caused by sexual frustration. That is not caused by pornography, but the lack of it.

[Hatman 🍁]

Anyways, this argument is going to be cyclical anyways, as studies on the issue have been inconclusive, according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_effects_of_pornography)

I still hold to my theory anyways, and you may to yours. But without any conclusive evidence to support your side, I don't see what the issue is. You have to prove pornography is a bad thing to make it illegal, but it doesn't need to be a benefit to be legal.

[Hatman 🍁]

Let me get this straight- I am a hypocrite because I smoked and drank when I was 14, but I still don't think it should be legal for 14 year olds to do those things.  Well, call me a hypocrite, then.

While I have nothing but respect for you, Senator, I don't see how you can construe this as something besides hypocrisy. Believing that an act should be illegal means that you believe it to be an unsuitable behavior that should be discouraged through direct legal disincentives. If you, believing this, still engage in such behavior, you are quite literally saying one thing and doing another. The only alternative is that you find it prudent that laws shouldn't be obeyed, but if so then what's the point of having the law anyway?

Have you never in your entire life, broken a law that you agree with?  Not even speeding?

I certainly haven't. I make appoint of not being a hypocrite. I mean, why would you? There's something hugely wrong with breaking laws you agree with. It is utterly retarded.

[Hatman 🍁]

Hurray for freedom! Those who voted against this bill will not be forgotten on election day.

[Hatman 🍁]

Hurray for freedom! Those who voted against this bill will not be forgotten on election day.

I hope that isn't a threat to mess with the election results. The Senate still has the oversight power to make your life miserable if you do.

He was clearly referring to his vote for Senate.

Quite.

Right. If I were to rig the election, it would happen the day after election day