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jravnsbo
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« on: November 30, 2003, 11:11:30 PM »

wrong party governor, BOB HOlden Dem of Missouri, even his own party thinks he stinks and will challenge him in the primary.  If he is around for the general electiona  strong anti-holden vote could help Pres Bush as well.
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2003, 09:40:10 AM »

Beet- well some of those senators will change and others the states could be changing.

One could argue Nelson of NE is essentially a GOP; many in your south list will become GOP next year; even though Gore won PA, until Rendell won there it was all GOP so having 2 senators that are GOP is not unusual-battleground state in 2004; West states you mention are not dominant Dem states just slightly so.

Dakotas laugh and say we send the money grubbers to DC to get us much as we can and then let the GOP conservatives manage it on the state level.
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2003, 11:39:03 AM »

Dems in Utah have done decent with Gov races, I believe it was 64-84 they held Gov mansion.
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2003, 05:33:11 PM »

Happens all the time on both sides on the federal level.  

Thus AMBASSADOR Braun after she lost in 1998 Senate race on Dem Side and Energy Sec Spencer Abraham after his 2000 Senate loss in MI on GOP side to just name a couple examples.


Right, I new who you were talking about.  Don't you think it's interesting that Tom Luna, the only statewide Republican to lose in 2002 was sgiven an appointed position this year by Kempthorne?
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2004, 07:41:05 PM »

A GOP governor just came to power in 2002, elected a new US SEnator (GOP) ousted a DEm Congressman that was very liberal, Bill Luther in 2002 for GOP, then GOP moved to within 34-31 in state senate, closest in years, and enhanced their hold on the House to a good size margin.  The Twin City suburbs voted overwhelmingly for GOP and contained a lot of votes.

just a few examples.

Plus in 2000, untilt he last week it was stilla tossup.  This is remarkable as Bush wrote it off and hardly campaigned at all or spent any money there.



I object to putting Coleman on this list. I am of the belief that MN is really heading toward a realignment.

I'm not disagreeing with you in asking this question, but how did socialist MN go over to the Republicans?
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2004, 09:48:41 PM »

45% ina  state where Bush didn'thardly campaign is not bad at all.  Not that much to get over the top if he campaigns there and he will.


You have to remember, though, that Nader did pretty good there, Bush only got 45% if I'm not mistaken.

Also, I think the question was more about why voters changed their minds, than the technical aspects of which offices the GOP took over... Wink

But I could be wrong, it feels kind of arrogant to explain other people's intentions, but I suppose I'm a busy body... Wink

A GOP governor just came to power in 2002, elected a new US SEnator (GOP) ousted a DEm Congressman that was very liberal, Bill Luther in 2002 for GOP, then GOP moved to within 34-31 in state senate, closest in years, and enhanced their hold on the House to a good size margin.  The Twin City suburbs voted overwhelmingly for GOP and contained a lot of votes.

just a few examples.

Plus in 2000, untilt he last week it was stilla tossup.  This is remarkable as Bush wrote it off and hardly campaigned at all or spent any money there.



I object to putting Coleman on this list. I am of the belief that MN is really heading toward a realignment.

I'm not disagreeing with you in asking this question, but how did socialist MN go over to the Republicans?
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jravnsbo
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2004, 02:59:16 PM »

Well one the parties shifted their policies.  Dems seem to care a lot more about the elite ideas than as they were seen for years as a party of the labor unions.  Unions are still there, but they don't seem to be the focus of the party.

Plus some migration has been happening here.  A number of factors really.



Also, I think the question was more about why voters changed their minds, than the technical aspects of which offices the GOP took over... Wink

But I could be wrong, it feels kind of arrogant to explain other people's intentions, but I suppose I'm a busy body... Wink

That's exactly what I was referring to.  How did MN go from a Massachusetts to a swing state, since they voted Dem in every election from 1960 to now, except for Nixon's landslide in 1972?
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