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« on: June 06, 2017, 09:34:43 AM »
« edited: June 06, 2017, 09:36:50 AM by mathstatman »

Great question, and brilliant, well-thought out alternative scenarios.

2115 is a long way away.

I think one major factor will be the role of Islam in the West. Abortion does not seem to me to be a "signature" issue in Islam, as it is in the Roman Catholic Church and among Evangelicals. Still, especially considering the evolving relationship between Western feminism and Islam, it is difficult to predict how Islam will tilt the discussion / legal status of abortion.

Leaving the role of Islam aside, certain predictions can be made.

1. Even people who are personally pro-life will be less and less supportive of laws that prohibit abortion or make its access difficult.

2. Pro-life crisis pregnancy centers will still be a thing, existing alongside groups such as Planned Parenthood. Sadly, and to the detriment of women and children, these two groups will still see each other as enemies, rather than allies in the fight against unwanted pregnancy and for dignity of pregnant women and new mothers, and their children.

3. Legal opposition to abortion will be pretty much confined to conservative, practicing Catholics and (white) Evangelicals.

4. It will be legal, and about as prevalent as today (though the declining number of abortion practitioners will make access difficult for many women, particularly rural and poor women), and will be a less discussed issue. As of June 2017, I believe both sides have pretty much played themselves out.

A comparison was made between the abortion and slavery. I believe abortion will be more like the drinking issue: such a major issue 100 years ago, hardly a blip now.
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2017, 03:15:54 PM »
« Edited: June 06, 2017, 03:22:33 PM by mathstatman »

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Historically, political party identification and abortion views have often been correlated, but not in a way that Americans younger than 40 would recognize.

The first Protestant denominations to make a push in a pro-choice direction were also the most Republican at the time: Presbyterian and Episcopal. The Catholics and Southern Baptists, both strongly Democratic constituencies at that time, remained stauchly opposed to abortion. The Black Panther Party opposed birth control through the early 1970s, so one can only speculate their views on abortion. Jesse Jackson was pro-life at least until 1977, the year he wrote a position paper for the National Right to Life Committee.

Closer to (my) home, here in MI the (initially unsuccessful) push to legalize abortion in the early 1970s was led by Protestant Republicans in the state legislature; the largely Catholic Democratic legislators were opposed. An unsuccessful 1972 initiative in MI to legalize abortion through 20 weeks received just 40% of the vote in heavily Democratic Wayne County-- and 51% in (then) heavily Republican Oakland County. The 1978 gubernatorial elections in both MA and MI featured a pro-life Democrat against a pro-choice Republican.

Nationally, the transition took place in the 1970s; I believe 1976 is the first year the party platforms took the positions on abortion (Dems pro-choice; GOP pro-life) that characterize the parties today.

So, the answer to your initial question is: No.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2017, 09:25:32 AM »

Legal, not a political issue, both parties are ok with it, actually favored due to massive planetary overpopulation, growing tech/holo-introverted societies, and dwindling resources. Additionally, you start to see countries contemplate and actually pass laws in favor of one-child policies again.
"One" is the loneliest number, in addition to being an odd number. Two, maybe.

I would hope the status of girls and women worldwide improves before more countries seriously contemplate one- (or two-) child policies. We all know about how after China intorduced its one-child policy in 1979, the male-female ratio especially in rural areas became very skewed, in "favor" of males.

Perhaps we will find a way to reconcile personal/religious views against abortion (and in favor of life); privacy and free choice and accessibilty for women facing problem pregnancies; and perhaps a small need for regulation, as long as it is needed, to discourage or prevent sex-selection abortions (in addition to normal medical regulations on the procedure, which should not be seen as overly restrictive or as a backdoor attempt to roll back abortion rights).
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