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Comrade Funk
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« on: May 06, 2024, 09:02:11 AM »

Too little; too late.

He approved the aide after October 7, Netanyahu was enabled by it, and seven months later it ruined the reputations of both Biden and Israel, perhaps beyond repair.

But at the same time, I don't think Israel needs much more aide, at least until they start de-escalating the conflict and help8ng to rebuild Gaza.

This is quite frankly a ridiculous take. It's never "too little, too late" and that's the same cliche nonsense that we'd expect from far leftists dead-enders who will never be satisfied with anything Biden does.

Not just that but yes.... obviously he approved aide after Oct 7th. That was the attack. Why would Joe Biden *NOT* approve aid after that date?

And saying that ...ammo... "ruined the reputation of Israel and Biden beyond repair" is probably the most nonsensical thing I've seen in the last few days here

Well, it’s more what Israel did with the… ammo… that pissed - and killed! - a lot of people than just the ammo itself.

This is being pretty disingenuous considering there is a lot of nuance to that - The US was not the sole provider of ammunition to Israel, and every single piece of ammo they have used in this fight did not come to the U.S. This is also a war - fighting against a terrorist group. After October 7th, the US was always going to provide Israel with more ammo and assistance. Our allies were attacked. It's clear that the U.S. is getting to the breaking point where they gave Netanyahu a chance and he's now proven that he can't be trusted.
It only took 35,000 dead to possibly (I have my doubts) do it. When anyone with a brain knew Israel was going to go too far.
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2024, 04:34:43 PM »

the people that believe Israel can't wage war without US aid must be excited that the war will be over soon
Perhaps we just don't want our $$$ going to another 10,000 dead Palestinian kids
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2024, 11:34:38 AM »

Why should Israel give a frick about being hated by Muslims? Their mere existence is enough for Muslims to hate them, so there's no reason to care. America and Europe are perpetually unpopular in these "Muslim" countries (until comes the time to beg for asylum) and there's not much they can do. Hell, based on what I know of sharia, if radical islamists don't hate you, you must be doing something wrong.

Can't speak for Israel, but I care because of the chain of logic it creates. People like you and OSR constantly make thinly-veiled remarks about how "antisemitism should be eradicated." What does antisemitism mean? Apparently, it means hating Israel. Well, guess what-- there are two million people in Gaza (granted, fewer with each passing day) who hate Israel for perfectly good reasons. What exactly do you want to do to them? Please, just come out and say it. Stop wasting everybody's time with these pathetic obfuscations.

The people of Gaza are free to hate Israel for whatever reasons they want.  They are not entitled to lob rockets into civilian areas, and Israel is allowed to defend itself and respond to such attacks.

Also Israel is fully justified in fully occupying Gaza for the foreseeable future
And do what? 50 years of humiliation and apartheid just like the West Bank? I know you don't consider Palestinians worthy of human rights, but even ignoring all of that, how is that good for Israel? How is becoming South Africa 2.0 good? How is becoming an international pariah (outside of neocon circles) good? Congrats, Israel is now your Republican cause de jore. You can ing have them. But a lot of people look and 35k dead, a racist government (don't dispute it, look at the government and tell me they aren't racist), and an increasingly messianic movement, and don't want to deal with that.

Netanyahu is the worst Jewish leader in a millennium, and he's the guy you stan. Jesus.
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