Is anyone who doesn't fully understand & support Trans issues an automatic HP??

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

So if a person doesn't really support transgenderism, that's fine.

If that person, becomes a parent, and their kids are cisgender, that's still fine.

But if one of those kids begins to identify as transgender, then even if that parent is otherwise loving and supportive, it is now automatic child abuse and the parent is now automatically a horrible person???



The above is what some people here seem to be arguing.

Let me ask you a question: Have you ever known or even met a transgender person?

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

I guess the obvious point would be that no one fully understands Trans issues. Even someone who is trans wouldn't automatically understand the point of view of another who is trans from their background, let alone from a different part of the world, with different social norms and understandings.

Well, yes, but then nobody understands anything.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

If I ban my child from getting clothing which make her look like a 11 year old prostitute, do it make me a horrible person?

What does that have to do with anything? Christ, Ingemann, I knew you weren't the best on trans issues, but I didn't think you'd stoop this low.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

If I ban my child from getting clothing which make her look like a 11 year old prostitute, do it make me a horrible person?

What does that have to do with anything? Christ, Ingemann, I knew you weren't the best on trans issues, but I didn't think you'd stoop this low.

It means that we all agree that parents should set some borders and limits up for their children, and parents who doesn't are often seen terrible parents. But that also means that sometimes it's hard for parents to know, when they set reasonable limits for their childrens behaviour to protect them and when the limits they set sabotage the childrens development.

Let's say that we have some parents who support the child in all of these things, but years after he or her changed views and blame the parents, that they let him destroy his or her body by giving it hormones, while the body was still growing.

The truth are that no matter what you do, you risk not raising your child right, so mostly parents just run with their instincts, and sometimes that end up wrong. But calling people horrible over that is a very Atlas thing to do, and not in a positive way.

I'd think any reasonable person would realize that cutting their child off from society is harmful to development. You seem to be implying in that second paragraph that we should dismiss actual trans kids' issues on the off chance that someone might change their mind. I know trans people who would kill to have those hormones.

One would think the parents might take some time to learn what transgenderism is and perhaps love their daughter for who she is rather than trying to force their beliefs on her to the point of her killing themselves. Believe what you want, but the fact remains that they are directly responsible for Leelah's death.