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traininthedistance
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« on: May 01, 2013, 06:12:13 PM »

No, the US is more race-IST because of (religious) conservatives.  

There is no empirical or scientific evidence that any race is any better or worse than any other.  (MAYBE the Asians scoring higher on tests is the only one that can't be immediately traced to income)  So, without basis in reality, where does the justification for racism come from?  Mmmhmmmm.  

Yes... everything does seem to come down to race, especially when Barack Obama is the focal point of the Democratic Party.  I just think you have it backward.  The racism doesn't cause the conservatism.  It's completely the other way around. 

Believe me... you wouldn't have the opposition you do to welfare if it was being used to help fuel a white CEO's private jet.  During the bailout... we actually saw this.  But giving the blacks a boost out of the mire we started them in.  That's a socialist no-go!

Actually, I sometimes wonder if the correlation goes in the other direction.  The Southern Baptist Convention got its start when nervous slaveowners in the early 1800s realized they needed a moral justification for subjugating other people, and started twisting Scripture to that end.
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2013, 06:26:23 PM »
« Edited: May 01, 2013, 06:29:03 PM by traininthedistance »

No, the US is more race-IST because of (religious) conservatives.  

There is no empirical or scientific evidence that any race is any better or worse than any other.  (MAYBE the Asians scoring higher on tests is the only one that can't be immediately traced to income)  So, without basis in reality, where does the justification for racism come from?  Mmmhmmmm.  

Yes... everything does seem to come down to race, especially when Barack Obama is the focal point of the Democratic Party.  I just think you have it backward.  The racism doesn't cause the conservatism.  It's completely the other way around.  

Believe me... you wouldn't have the opposition you do to welfare if it was being used to help fuel a white CEO's private jet.  During the bailout... we actually saw this.  But giving the blacks a boost out of the mire we started them in.  That's a socialist no-go!

Actually, I sometimes wonder if the correlation goes in the other direction.  The Southern Baptist Convention got its start when nervous slaveowners in the early 1800s realized they needed a moral justification for subjugating other people, and started twisting Scripture to that end.

TWISTING Scripture?

    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.  You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.  You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.  You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.  (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

    If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years.  Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom.  If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year.  But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him.  If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master.  But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children.  I would rather not go free.'  If he does this, his master must present him before God.  Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl.  After that, the slave will belong to his master forever.  (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

What's there to twist?  

I say "twist" because religious groups were among the most fervent abolitionists in the North.  If you want to say that it was anti-slavery religious Northerners who were actively seeking out ways to misinterpret the Bible for their own ends, then... eh, I guess you're welcome to make that case.  But it's not so cut and dried; the rise of the Southern Baptists was certainly a radical movement for its time, at the very least.
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