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Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸
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« on: November 11, 2017, 06:20:08 PM »

This assumes that in, say, 2035, we will consider the same people to be "minorities" as now. That's a big assumption. In the past, groups "became" white. I don't see why this is not going to happen now.

True. Once miscegenation becomes even further mainstream, this country will be 95-100% white again. The GOP will be in good shape once that happens, but it may be a while.

You forget the way the American conception of race works.

If this were Latin America, you'd have a point, because there, the "white" part is seen as canceling out or "elevating" the other parts.

Whereas here, if a white person and a black person have a child, that child will inevitably be regarded as black. Same story for mixed-race "Eurasian" children.

With Latinos, it depends. Theoretically, if the child's father is white and they have a "white" surname as a result, and they have "passable" features, they won't regard themselves as nonwhite. But it's worth remembering that part of the reason this happens in Texas is that there are just so many Hispanic people to begin with. A half-Hispanic person in Boston or Pennsylvania is going to be perceived as a lot more "different" than they would in San Antonio.
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Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 06:43:29 PM »

This assumes that in, say, 2035, we will consider the same people to be "minorities" as now. That's a big assumption. In the past, groups "became" white. I don't see why this is not going to happen now.

True. Once miscegenation becomes even further mainstream, this country will be 95-100% white again. The GOP will be in good shape once that happens, but it may be a while.

You forget the way the American conception of race works.

If this were Latin America, you'd have a point, because there, the "white" part is seen as canceling out or "elevating" the other parts.

Whereas here, if a white person and a black person have a child, that child will inevitably be regarded as black. Same story for mixed-race "Eurasian" children.

With Latinos, it depends. Theoretically, if the child's father is white and they have a "white" surname as a result, and they have "passable" features, they won't regard themselves as nonwhite. But it's worth remembering that part of the reason this happens in Texas is that there are just so many Hispanic people to begin with. A half-Hispanic person in Boston or Pennsylvania is going to be perceived as a lot more "different" than they would in San Antonio.

I was being facetious, but yeah, I pretty much agree with you. However I would say that the one-drop-rule starts to get a bit tedious once a person is <25% black, because at that point it becomes hard to tell.

In theory, they could "pass" but in practice, they will likely have been raised in a black household/community and identify as black for that reason.

Plenty of African-Americans, if you subjected them to a DNA test, are probably more white than they are black, but that doesn't mean they are ever going to be treated that way by society or that they are interested in discarding their history and culture for sake of checking a box on a form.
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Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 10:09:51 PM »

What happened to politics based off on ideas? Are future voters going to do a DNA test to see what party they should vote for? What about what’s good for the country? What about patriotism? God I’m old.

The GOP panders to racists and bigots. That is bad for our country and contradicts our values.

That's not a "DNA test." It's called being a decent person.
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