Should Omar Mateen have been legally allowed to buy a gun on June 10, 2016?

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

As I stated in another thread, I sure do wish "pro-life" Republicans would work as hard at preventing men from getting guns as they do at preventing women from getting abortions.

I love how the party of Jesus so adamantly defends their "God-given right" to have a gun, but any attempt at curtailing gun violence is "TYRANNY!"

And I sure wish the party that espouses the values of Liberalism and tolerance would be more willing to stand up to the regressive and violent religion that has claimed the lives tens of thousands of Americans since 9/11 and apply to them the same scrutiny that they do to Christianity, but I guess neither party is perfect.

This guy was born in the US. No Trumpist anti-Muslim immigration policy would have kept him out.

The FBI had investigated him and found sketchy things but nothing definitive.

The only way you could have prevented this from happening is with stricter gun laws.

And please don't tell me that the people in that club should have had guns too, because then you'd just have a bunch of people shooting at each other in a dark, crowded, smoky nightclub.

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

As I stated in another thread, I sure do wish "pro-life" Republicans would work as hard at preventing men from getting guns as they do at preventing women from getting abortions.

I love how the party of Jesus so adamantly defends their "God-given right" to have a gun, but any attempt at curtailing gun violence is "TYRANNY!"

And I sure wish the party that espouses the values of Liberalism and tolerance would be more willing to stand up to the regressive and violent religion that has claimed the lives tens of thousands of Americans since 9/11 and apply to them the same scrutiny that they do to Christianity, but I guess neither party is perfect.

This guy was born in the US. No Trumpist anti-Muslim immigration policy would have kept him out.

The FBI had investigated him and found sketchy things but nothing definitive.

The only way you could have prevented this from happening is with stricter gun laws.

And please don't tell me that the people in that club should have had guns too, because then you'd just have a bunch of people shooting at each other in a dark, crowded, smoky nightclub.

Thank you, IndyTexas. I'm sure Brown Line was saying the same thing about how evil Christianity is when Oklahoma City occurred.

Yes, Republican logic: This tragedy could have been prevented had we armed all the people in the nightclub. More guns is always the answer to stop violence! Newtown could have been prevented had we armed the teachers and students! Aurora could have been prevented had everyone brought guns with them to the theater! Then again, victim blaming is what Republicans do best.  

P.S. Brown Line, I'll have you know that I do apply the same scrutiny to Islam as I do with Christianity. I'm a self-professed agnostic and I believe that all religions are inherently evil because I believe that mankind invented religion as a means of mind control and oppression. What really bothers me is people like you who always bring up the "whatabouttery" when it comes to Islam vs. Christianity. I hear it all the time: Islam is worse for gays because at least Christians don't hang gay people in public, i.e. Christianity hates gays, but Islam hates them more! Give me a freaking break.

Christianity hating gays (and most American Christians do not "hate" them, and certainly dont wish them dead) is not the same as Muslims literally killing them for being gay, which is quite common. So if that's you applying equal scrutiny, you're not doing a good job.

Conservative Christians literally wished gay people would die when they opposed any attempt to find a cure for HIV/AIDS in the 1980s - they believed it was God's punishment for the sodomites.

And again, the argument that most American Christians don't "hate" gay people while they stand in the way of their right to do things like get married, serve openly in the military or not be fired from their job for their sexuality is about as meaningful as conservatives in the 1960s saying, "I don't hate black people. I just don't want them to be able to buy a house in my neighborhood or send their kids to the same school as mine."

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

At some point, the 2nd Amendment Absolutists need to acknowledge that there is a tradeoff between freedom and security.

They need to admit that you can't make it harder for people like Omar Mateen to get assault weapons without making it harder for everyone to get them. And if you aren't willing to make it harder for everyone to get them, you're leaving an opening for terror attacks like this to happen.

Stricter immigration laws would not have stopped this non-immigrant.

I'm not sure how "mental health" does anything unless you subject everyone to mandatory psychiatric evaluations at regular intervals.

You can't just say, "Well we'll just take the guns away from the Muslims so that the LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS can have all the arms they want."