Israel refuses to honor Christian Israelis' beliefs and put tree in Knesset

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

Israel is refusing to acknowledge the fact that a sizable number of its citizens celebrate Christmas and has denied a request by a Christian member of the Knesset to place a tree in the legislative buiding for the holiday season.

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For some context, roughly 2% of Israelis identify as Christian. Roughly 2% of Americans identify as Jewish. If the United States can bother to erect a giant menorah on the National Mall for Hanukkah, surely the Israeli Knesset can be bothered to stick a tree somewhere for Christmas.

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

Ok. Can Boynton City Hall take down the menorah, since Hanukah was a month ago?

Considering most Goyim simply regard Hanukkah as "Jewish Christmas" it doesn't surprise me when Hanukkah displays remain up until the Christmas stuff is taken down as well.

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

At least they aren't jailing and executing Christians like their neighbors (though TBF some of the far-right ultra-Orthodox nutcases wouldn't oppose doing so).

Every time Israel does something untoward like this, the kneejerk response from some people is, "Well, the other Middle Eastern countries would be doing even worse things if XYZ was happening in their country!" But if we're going to privilege Israel above its neighbors, on the grounds that it is a democracy or more "civilized" or whatever, Israel needs to be held to a higher standard than Syria or Egypt or Saudi Arabia. If they want to continue to be given special treatment by us, they need to conduct themselves in ways that make special treatment deserved.

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

Christmas trees aren't "Christian"... they're a pagan import to the festival and specifically originate in Germany.

Also, Christians have done many a nasty thing to Jews over the years.

Most Christians all over the world use Christmas trees to celebrate Christmas. They may not have originated as a Christian tradition but they are one now.

When have Christians done nasty things to Jews other than the Inquisition more than 500 years ago? Jews were discriminated against in Europe at other times but they were not being discriminated against from a Christian perspective; they were discriminated against because they were essentially foreigners. To this day, Israel expects all Jews all over the world to be loyal to their state, which kind of lends credence to the notion that you can't be truly American/British/French/etc if you're Jewish. The Holocaust was not conducted from a Christian standpoint; you can't blame Christianity for that. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure the Christians who live in Israel had nothing to do with any of the above historical events seeing as those happened in Europe.

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

When have Christians done nasty things to Jews other than the Inquisition more than 500 years ago? Jews were discriminated against in Europe at other times but they were not being discriminated against from a Christian perspective; they were discriminated against because they were essentially foreigners.

If you have any free time at some point, I'd encourage you to maybe try and open a book.

If you open a book, you will find "Christians" have indeed done nasty things to Jews, but the cause of the discrimination had nothing to do with the European Christians being Christian or the Jews being foreigners. The Holocaust was not a crime done unto Jews by Christians at all, for example.

As for the thread topic, who gives a fuvk besides people looking for (and not finding) something to criticize about Israel?

There are a lot of BS criticisms of Israel, and this is one of the more trivial ones for sure.

There were a lot of Pogroms, particularly in Eastern Europe, that were motivated by religious fervor and actively egged on by the Roman Catholic Church. Blood libels were persistent and deadly for hundreds of years. The Holocaust had nothing really to do with Christianity and was more rooted in racist nationalism, but the anti-semitism that it drew on to create enthusiastic supporters definitely did have links to it.

And yeah, this really strikes me more as people being angry that Israel's sensibilities aren't exactly the same as the US'.

Israel's sensibilities aren't the same as ours. They're closer to those of their neighbors. Which is why I don't quite understand the logic of those who view Israel as "special" and deserving of better treatment than its neighbors.

The fact is that 98% of Americans, were they living in Israel, would be regarded as second class citizens by virtue of not being Jewish.

When have Christians done nasty things to Jews other than the Inquisition more than 500 years ago? Jews were discriminated against in Europe at other times but they were not being discriminated against from a Christian perspective; they were discriminated against because they were essentially foreigners.

If you have any free time at some point, I'd encourage you to maybe try and open a book.


As for the thread topic, who gives a fuvk besides people looking for (and not finding) something to criticize about Israel?

You can't seem to give me a concrete example, as is the case when most people simply offer a vague exhortation to "open a book."

I'm well aware that you're an Israel Firster, Vosem, which is why I can't understand why your family came here to begin with. There are plenty of your kind in Israel - the Russians I mean - though I'm sorry to say they've by and large made it a much less civilized place than it was before they arrived.

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

The fact is that 98% of Americans, were they living in Israel, would be regarded as second class citizens by virtue of not being Jewish.

Just because Israel doesn't keep itself to American standards, that doesn't make Non-Jews second class citizens, just like non-Anglicans aren't second class citizens in England even though it is the official state religion.

I don't think Americans understand the concept of a nation-state.

How is Israel a nation-state? It isn't ethnically, linguistically or culturally homogenous.