Conservative plans march on Washington with loaded rifles

[Indy Texas]

I don't get people like Kokesh - the military vets who get all reverse Manchurian Candidate and devolve into a world of anti-government conspiracy theories.

Adam Kokesh obviously liked the government enough to kill people on its behalf in exchange for a salary and benefits.

[Indy Texas]

I don't get people like Kokesh - the military vets who get all reverse Manchurian Candidate and devolve into a world of anti-government conspiracy theories.

Well, I guess when you are sent off to war and watch your buddies die all because of a lie you will change your opinion.

We have an all-volunteer military in this country. No one held a gun to his head (pun) and forced him into it.

[Indy Texas]

I don't get people like Kokesh - the military vets who get all reverse Manchurian Candidate and devolve into a world of anti-government conspiracy theories.

Well, I guess when you are sent off to war and watch your buddies die all because of a lie you will change your opinion.

We have an all-volunteer military in this country. No one held a gun to his head (pun) and forced him into it.

And Ariel Castro did not force those girls into his car. Does that make his crime ok?

You're actually comparing these two things? And you wonder why people think your party is anti-woman?

[Indy Texas]

If somebody steps on someone's foot or says the wrong thing, that event could very easily turn into a disaster.

Or wears a hoodie in their presence.

[Indy Texas]

V: People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.

And you actually think a handful of nitwits with loaded guns puts fear into the hearts of the people who control the most powerful military in the world?

These guys are asshats, no doubt about that. But they have an active motivation to make sure nothing bad happens. A big scene would probably just make a powerful statement for their sworn enemies.

If they don't, they should have no issues letting the 'nitwits' protest within the confines of the law.

Laws of course can be changed, and the District of Columbia is subject to the control of the United States Congress.

They're not going to intimidate the government. All they're going to do is intimidate the mostly black residents of that city who likely have unhappy memories of what their grandparents went through when a bunch of white men with guns descended on their city.

[Indy Texas]

I don't get people like Kokesh - the military vets who get all reverse Manchurian Candidate and devolve into a world of anti-government conspiracy theories.

Well, I guess when you are sent off to war and watch your buddies die all because of a lie you will change your opinion.

We have an all-volunteer military in this country. No one held a gun to his head (pun) and forced him into it.

And Ariel Castro did not force those girls into his car. Does that make his crime ok?

You're actually comparing these two things? And you wonder why people think your party is anti-woman?

Your argument is no different than Ariel Castro's argument at its base. How is comparing the roots of your arguments “anti-woman.”

A young girl getting in a car with a man who wasn't a total stranger and presuming she won't be spending the next decade getting abused by him is not the same as a young man enlisting in the military and then being shocked when he has to, you know, kill people and possibly be killed by other people. It's not your job to judge the rights and wrongs of it. It's your job to do as you're told.

A better analogy would be a woman getting in a car with a man whom she knows is a pimp. Sure he's offering to take her to dinner and buy her a new dress, but she's a fool if she thinks he doesn't want something in return.

[Indy Texas]

V: People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.

And you actually think a handful of nitwits with loaded guns puts fear into the hearts of the people who control the most powerful military in the world?

These guys are asshats, no doubt about that. But they have an active motivation to make sure nothing bad happens. A big scene would probably just make a powerful statement for their sworn enemies.

If they don't, they should have no issues letting the 'nitwits' protest within the confines of the law.

Laws of course can be changed, and the District of Columbia is subject to the control of the United States Congress.

They're not going to intimidate the government. All they're going to do is intimidate the mostly black residents of that city who likely have unhappy memories of what their grandparents went through when a bunch of white men with guns descended on their city.

when was that?

Pretty much any time they thought someone in the Negro part of town was being "uppity" or had allegedly "dishonored" a white woman. Vigilante justice was rampant in the South. If they didn't have guns, they had nooses to hang someone or gasoline to torch someone's house.

[Indy Texas]

V: People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.

Alienated, politicized militias like an SA are not expressions of democracy.

On the contrary. The militia is the people.

Do you even know what "SA" means? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung

Would it be acceptable to you if those militias were connected somehow to a political party?

The Constitution of the Commonwealth of Virginia describes the militia as composed of the body of the people. There is no reference to concepts such as democracy or political parties.

What are you saying? That Virginia shouldn't have democracy because it isn't in their constitution?