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Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸
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« on: March 05, 2013, 02:04:13 AM »

Sure, let's blame the guy who has no control in letting legislation get through and is actually willing to compromise.

I swear, politics here is making me incredibly cynical.

Obama has some responsibility for this situation. He should have made getting rid of the sequester a precondition for a fiscal cliff deal back in December. He had a much better hand back then and could have forced the Republicans into a much better deal than whatever comes now if a deal is reached. And even if that failed, I would rather have gone over the cliff (which would have led to higher taxes for the wealthy) than fix the revenue part of it without addressing the cuts, like the democrats did.

How would he have made getting rid of the sequester a precondition for a fiscal cliff deal when he supported the sequester when it was created in 2011?

The whole situation is unfortunate, but the reality is that he has offered options that include spending cuts, entitlement reforms and tax loophole closures. The Republicans have made it clear by rejecting these that they aren't interested in cutting spending, reforming entitlements or closing tax loopholes - they only want to ensure that the amount of taxes paid grows infinitely smaller and that wealthy people get yet another round of tax cuts.
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Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2013, 02:17:05 AM »

Oh, I agree we need to increase tax revenues as part of a deficit cutting package, but politically that can only be done in conjunction with cuts in entitlement spending.  There's no way such a package can be negotiated as part of the sequester mess and the GOP would be idiots to concede that a tax hike is acceptable in exchange for spending cuts unless it is locked down that those are cuts in entitlement spending.  Discretionary spending cuts are too easily reversed through the use of "temporary" supplemental spending bills.

You're in the minority, then. What package have the House Republicans proposed that doesn't require loophole closures come with rate cuts that would effectively lower revenue? "Broadening the base and lowering the rates" as they call it isn't going to raise revenue - it's just going to shift more tax burden away from the rich and onto everyone else and yield less revenue in the process. As for entitlement spending, the Republicans don't want to cut entitlement spending. They want to want to cut entitlement spending. Because they get elected by the people at the town hall meetings who holler about how "I earned my Social Security/Medicare! I paid into it and those benefits are mine!" without understanding how much more money they get out of those programs than they ever paid into them, and without understanding that their payments were given to people who were retired when they were still working - it didn't go into some little piggy bank with their name on it.
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