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CLARENCE 2015!
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« on: February 26, 2012, 02:11:03 AM »

I am sick of seeing our men and women (by our I mean us and our allies) die... they aren't dying storming beachheads- they are dying protecting trade routes so Afghan farmers dont sell opium... what the hell is the matter with us? They are traffic cops in Kabul and border patrol in the boondocks...get them out of there! And nuke the entire f-ing country!

My heart weeps for these men and women....I know what it is like to wonder what the hell you are trying to acheive...and why in the world you are risking your life for people who want you to leave
If the Afghans have an issue with the way we are doing things- I say we gt the f--- out of there and see if they can do better! Enough is enough!!!
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 03:05:37 AM »

I'm reasonably certain Clarence is being overemotive and hyperbolic and does not in fact want to physically destroy Afghanistan.
Thank you Nathan- that is right

And Xahar- the recent issues in Afghanistan with the Koran burning and violence and measures takn because of it inspird these thoughts
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 04:14:07 AM »

As for the hyperbole, my grandfather of late memory, who was in the Pacific, once or twice talked about Iraq that way during the pre-surge days when things were going really badly, so I imagine some sort of combination of age, extreme frustration, nationalistic conservatism, and military experience possibly feeding into the frustration and nationalism. Clarence can correct me if I'm wrong about any of that analysis.
Nathan- I think that is true but your grandfather (God rest his soul) and I are coming at it from two different sides... your grandfather and my father who was also in th Pacific had the glory of battle...we do not have many battles nowadays- of course Fallujah is an example of one buteven that was not two militaries facing each other as it always was until WWII

People in my generation had to deal with assholes tlling us our brothers died for nothing and only recently- seeing this war- do I have to believe it. My father and men like him died facing an enemy who your grandfather fought...it was easy for widows like my mother to understand why their husbands were dead- not easy to cope but easy to accept compared to widows from Korea on.  I was on civic action teams in Vietnam where men were killed providing security for a soccer match- how do you tell THAT to his woman???
I keep talking about the traffic cops and opium because two young men were killed that way- one's granddad and ones uncle are members of my Legion post

I identify with these kids because we don't know what our mission is!!! No one wanted to see communism spread but was a mother willing to lose her son for it?  How would a mother feela bout losing her son because he was patrolilng an intersection? I wrappd my arms around one of those mother and held her the day she found out-  No mother wants to lose her son but in my dad's generation it was for fighting tru eevil...after 9/11 It was the same way but now we are sending our men and women to die for a country that doesn't want us there and it makes me sick- and I mean that literally since it is not good for my blood pressure to feel this angry

I am no Ron Paul fan but I see his point here...I will be the first to speak up to use force where I think it is necessary for AMERICA but this here in Afghanistan is not a cause I want one more person to die for
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 04:38:39 PM »

Nice that you folks can take one line out- which we alrady established is not truly how I feel- and not comment on any thing else...exception of Nathan- thank you
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 10:12:17 PM »

I'm reasonably certain Clarence is being overemotive and hyperbolic and does not in fact want to physically destroy Afghanistan.
Thank you Nathan- that is right

And Xahar- the recent issues in Afghanistan with the Koran burning and violence and measures taken because of it inspired these thoughts

An overreaction on the part of Afghans, but an understandable one unfortunately.  This latest incident is the far from the first time coalition forces have demonstrated what it would be charitable to call indifference to the Quran.  Given its central importance to a large segment of Afghan society, that repeated indifference demonstrates incompetence.
I disagree that it is "Understandable" to kill people for a book being burned
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2012, 09:37:02 PM »

I am not here to be Mr. Congeniality... if the choice presented to me is reducing Iran to rubble without risking hte life of a single American or allied soldier or to invade and risk thousands of our people's lives, it's the former...I am an American and I care more about our people then about theirs
Let the firing squad begin...
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2012, 09:40:50 PM »

You are right- and I believe Obama is correct in moving towards drone warfare and using techonlogy over manpower to advance our interests
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2012, 09:25:54 AM »

To discuss politics with smart and respectful people.... people who disagree but who do more then take one line and make a crack-
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