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Dabeav
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« on: October 15, 2016, 02:32:28 PM »

This is what I fear from a Clinton presidency.  Trump wants to work with Russia and I think Johnson would as well to a lesser extent.  Hillary already screwed up this relationship and doesn't want to make a deal with Putin.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/ways-russia-telling-people-prepare-war/story?id=42800992
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2016, 05:56:59 PM »

So Russia hacked our institutions, we blamed them for doing that, and then they're getting pissy and ready for nuclear war? And we should follow their demands?

Well something about the actions in Syria and it is our fault that ISIS exists. So, why shouldn't we at least work with the Russians to stop ISIS?  Maybe negotiate an end to the hacking and a deal for a strategic peace in the Middle East? 

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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2016, 06:00:42 PM »

Can't imagine any friendship more true, long-lasting, and valuable than one with a country that is insisting by threat of force that you accept its candidate to lead your own government. With friends like those...

I'm not imagining best buddies here more like "frenemies".  Have our differences but work out a balance and leave each other the hell alone.  I swear Clinton supporters seem to want war.  Maybe y'all are really neocons.
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2016, 06:06:21 PM »

You really should move to Russia if you are so concerned about Putin.

Naw I'd move to Australia or New Zealand away from the nuclear winds.
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2016, 06:10:54 PM »

It's unbelievable how quickly Republicans have gone from rabid, fanatic nationalism to overt treason.

It's unbelievable how Democrats have sold out for a terrible candidate (or AMG FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT!!!1) even when war is on the table.  No one seems to vote their conscience.  Maybe not many actually have a conscience. It would explain a lot of this election to me.
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2016, 07:34:06 PM »

where's. the bit on hacking FL data? i see no reference to that in the linked article or the thread?

If you let the video playthrough, the next video is GMA talking about it. 
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2016, 07:36:05 PM »

maybe i sound like an alt righter here so forgive me, but despite my belief we shouldn't go into war, we shouldn't be so scared sh**tless of war that even the slightest threat of war means we give up our sovereignty, our democracy to another country. Is that a controversial opinion?

Not at all.  I agree with you completely.
Exactly, else we are truly being conquered. We agree to work with other countries to maximize the welfare of all.

I'm not suggesting that at all.  Just reaching a neutral agreement with Putin/Russia to not go to war.  We have enough blowback to deal with here without making Russia a full enemy again.
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2016, 09:23:25 PM »



I'm not suggesting that at all.  Just reaching a neutral agreement with Putin/Russia to not go to war.  We have enough blowback to deal with here without making Russia a full enemy again.

Naive people. You don't realize that any agreement with  Putin will be used by him to weaken the USA. Kerry complained during negotiations he was outmaneuvered by Russians http://old.themoscowtimes.com/sitemap/free/1998/7/article/chasing-the-chair/287355.html
Russians outmaneuvered Clinton
http://elections.ap.org/lakeway/content/clintons-moscow-spring-ended-putin-returned-power
As for Trump Putin will mop the floor with him.
Clinton has experience and knows how to deal with Russians.

Get a better negotiator as SoS? I don't think she did well.
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