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Yank2133
Junior Chimp
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« on: October 20, 2017, 09:16:00 PM »
« edited: October 20, 2017, 11:17:44 PM by Yank2133 »

They are doing just fine given the situation. Most of the major achievements of the Democratic-controlled congress from 2009-2010 is still intact. And they are also crushing the GOP in terms of fundraising money and have opened a huge lead on the them in terms of the congressional ballot.
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Yank2133
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2017, 11:22:27 PM »

If nothing else the Democratic Party of today is about 20x better than what we had from 2001-2006.

Agreed.

People who bitch about the Democratic party today, forget how bad things were during the Bush years.  12 Democrats voted for President Bush's tax cuts. Today, the GOP would be lucky to get Manchin to vote for Trump's tax cuts.

The 2001-2003 era Democrats would have caved on the ACA as well. Things aren't perfect with the party, but things are much better today then it was 14-16 years ago.
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Yank2133
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2017, 12:48:58 AM »

Opposition parties never have a coherent message or anything like that in the mid terms, or a clear leader.

Not true, see Newt Gingrich in 1994.

Which is the only time that has happened in recent history.
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Yank2133
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2017, 08:08:16 PM »

Democrats need to offer more than "we're against everything Trump does" if they want to win.

That's funny, because that strategy worked perfectly for the Republicans in 2010 if you just replace "Trump" with "Obama." And Obama had a much stronger mandate than Trump to begin with, soooo...

But according to by-election results it's not working for Democrats.

So then why do Americans have a double standard is the real question.

It's almost as if Democrats and Republicans have different bases of support with different needs and ideals and just coping their strategy will never work.

But No, keep getting mad at voters for not voting for your do-nothing group of whores.

They didn't run on anything, but be against Bush in 2006 and look how that turned out. Mid-terms are about the party in power and has always been.

Now Democrats can't just be against Trump in 2020 since presidential elections are different.
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