Trump approval ratings thread 1.2

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So far I see Donald Trump doing little that gets a President re-elected.   

Does he have to though?  His supporters are die-hard and they'll be showing up to vote no matter what; he could declare himself Jesus and emperor of the world, and they'd cheer him on; he could advocate the opening of extermination camps for all Muslims and they'd praise him for it.  If the other side fails again to get out the vote, I can see him squeaking to another victory simply on the backs of his deranged supporters who will be there rooting for him regardless of what he's done so far or what he will do.

He won the election by a mere 70k across three states and if Comey doesn't drop that letter, Clinton wins and we aren't even having this discussion. I know it is popular these days to ignore political wisdom because of Trump's victory. But he isn't going to be reelected with 35-38% support he has now.

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Trump Is Far Less Popular Than The Economy Suggests He Should Be



https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-far-less-popular-than-the-economy-suggests-he-should-be/

It is still remarkable how incompetent Trump truly is.

If he had any self discipline, his approval numbers would be 50+. This doesn't mean Trump is doing a good job, it just that he inherited a good situation from President Obama.

All he had to do was sign some popular EOs and shut up and most Americans would think he is doing just fine.

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Gallup (10/15/2017)

Approve: 36% (-2)
Disapprove: 59% (+3)

Who knew screwing with people's healthcare wasn't popular...

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Fox News (vs. Sept.)

Approve: 38 (-4)
Disapprove: 57 (+4).

Strongly Disapprove is 49%.
"Some of the drop comes from white men without a college degree, as 56 percent approve of the president, down from 68 percent last month.  Working-class white men were a key voting bloc for him in the election (71 percent backed Trump according to the Fox News Exit Poll)."

Headline blames nature LOL.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/25/fox-news-poll-storms-erode-trumps-ratings.html

Katrina hurt Bush.

Sandy helped Obama.

This year's hurricanes hurt Trump.

Apparently God prefers Democratic presidents.

God prefers presidents who don't  up hurricane responses.

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All that he can convince those who 'failed' to vote for him the last time is that that their vote for Hillary Clinton was the right vote to make.

Not to mention those who were inclined to vote for Hillary, but didn't because they thought Trump wouldn't win or those who voted third party because they couldn't stomach Hillary but would vote Democrat otherwise. His win was really weak and anyone with common sense would work to endear themselves to "others" instead of disparaging them at every turn.

Exactly. Both JFK and Carter knew how shaky their electoral wins were and tried to build upon those wins. JFK was successful, and Carter wasn't. Dubya practically needed 9/11 to keep from being a one-term President. JFK had the promise of being the greatest President since FDR before the original Nightmare on Elm Street  (that is the street his car was on on November 22, 1963 in Dallas).

Yup.

Trump might have sealed his fate when he allowed Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan to take charge of the legislative agenda. Tax cuts for rich people and taking away health insurance from millions are not popular, the GOP lost to the Democrats on those issues.

Trump should have pushed for a serious infrastructure bill. He would have been able to put the Democrats in a bind and it is something people actually wanted.

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33/62!

lmao!

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I don't think this will be the case for any potential Democratic nominee outside of maybe Elizabeth Warren.

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I don't think this will be the case for any potential Democratic nominee outside of maybe Elizabeth Warren.

Obama was subject to a four year-long smear campaign and kept his favourabilities in the 50s, so the excuse for Clinton that any Democratic nominee would have had equally bad favourabilities is simply wrong.

Agreed.

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What happens when Trump gets below 10?

There are enough deplorables in this country so that will never happen.

Yup.

Trump's floor is likely 29-30%.

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WaPo/ABC (vs. Sept.)

Approve: 37% (-2) (strong: 25%)
Disapprove: 59% (+2) (strong: 50%)

He was at 36% approval in July, but this is a new high for disapproval. Needless to say, this is the worst result of any president in his first year in history.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/year-surprise-election-65-percent-trumps-achieved-poll/story?id=50907926

I have said it before, but it is amazing how Trump's has such **** numbers with this economy. His first year in office should have been the easiest first year of any President since HW in 1988. A normal GOP president, even without passing anything, would be at 50-55% just based on the economy alone.

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Yeah, he isn't winning a second term with those numbers. I am starting to believe the theory that Trump won't even run in 2020.

Remember, he thought about running in 2012, but decided not too because he knew he would lose badly.

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Monmouth, Dec 10-12, 806 adults (change from Sept)

Approve 32 (-8)
Disapprove 56 (+7)

Record (by far) low approval and high disapproval for this poll.

Generic Congressional ballot: 51 D, 36 R

Trump and the GOP are finished.

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This.

I have said from the start that Trump is just the GOP version of Jimmy Carter. He is never going to be a transformative president that LBJ, Reagan, hell even Obama were.

If he doesn't resigned, he is going to lose in a massive landslide in 2020.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/18/economic-optimism-soaring-helping-trump-cnbc-survey.html

CNBC poll: Trump underwater just 42-49, a 7 point increase in net approval since the last poll as Americans' views on the economy rise.

Democrats are in big big trouble if the economy is still humming along by the midterms next year. The Trump/Republican bounce back is coming.

This doesn't make sense.

The economy has been doing fine since Trump took office and yet we have seen a massive swing towards Democrats in special elections.

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Don't worry limo. This thread is titled "Trump approval ratings" but it's actually "Daily dose of libs trying to feel better in Trump's America".

Doug Jones+1.5

44 point swing in Tennessee yesterday

RIP the GOP in 2018. They need to moderate and become more reasonable so they get educated swing voters like me back into their fold.

Seriously.

I think Republicans are underestimating how completely ****ed they are in 2018.

I mean just look at these numbers.

Live interview generic ballot polls in December
CNN D+18
Quinnipiac D+15
Monmouth D+15
Marist D+13
POS (R) D+12
NBC/WSJ D+11

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Don't worry limo. This thread is titled "Trump approval ratings" but it's actually "Daily dose of libs trying to feel better in Trump's America".

Doug Jones+1.5

44 point swing in Tennessee yesterday

RIP the GOP in 2018. They need to moderate and become more reasonable so they get educated swing voters like me back into their fold.

Seriously.

I think Republicans are underestimating how completely ****ed they are in 2018.

I mean just look at these numbers.

Live interview generic ballot polls in December
CNN D+18
Quinnipiac D+15
Monmouth D+15
Marist D+13
POS (R) D+12
NBC/WSJ D+11

Hillary won the popular vote by 2%. That was in line with her 4% lead in the polling average. National polling was pretty accurate in 2016.

Edit: A veteran of a polling forum should know that.

Yeah, national polling was fine in 2016.

On top of that we already seeing the swings in the SEs and there is of course the intensity gap between those who highly approve of Trump and those who highly disapprove of the President.

The GOP is done. People like Reaganfan might not see it or are in denial, but they are done after November 2018.

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Republicans and Trump are going to make massive gains because of this. Look at the companies announcing higher minimum wages and bonuses. The tax plan will be very popular in a couple of weeks, I guarantee it.

This is weak.

You can do better then this.

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http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/popularity.php?pres=45&sort=time&direct=DESC&Submit=DISPLAY

Recently came across this

Trump's ratings aren't so bad as some media try to portray as "the lowest in history of such ratings". If you look at ratings of Bush 43 during the most of his 2nd term or Nixon's during Watergate there have been more or less worse numbers for previous presidents (for ex. Jimmy Carter had in the midst of 1979 below 30% rating for this short time).

They are the worst ever at this point of a presidency.

That is true. He never hit 50% of approval rating, started his term with 45% only. That is really low.

But my intention in the post above was to put this thing in a slightly smaller picture, because when I heard several times that Trump's numbers are the lowest on the record, I was not thinking that this statement on his ratings includes a certain point of a presidency. This evening I continued reading a book about Jimmy Carter, and there was some informations that Carter had in some time under 30's rating, and after that I started to search the Internet to see ratings of other past presidents and that is how I came up with my post above.

Carter fell under the 30s during the oil crisis and the Iran hostage crisis. Trump is already in the 30s without having faced a crisis that wasn't of his own making, and a booming economy to boot.

Exactly.

This is why I say Trump is finished if he makes it to 2020.

This isn't like Bill Clinton, who had poor numbers in his first year due to a bad economy. Trump has awful numbers while overseeing a country that might be in the best shape it has been since the late 90s.

He is going to get blown the **** out in 2020 if he is still in office. People really don't like him and he will likely not face someone as unpopular as Hillary was.

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What the hell happened in December for Trump's numbers to sink that low? I mean he was incompetent, but that is no different then any prior month.

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What the hell happened in December for Trump's numbers to sink that low? I mean he was incompetent, but that is no different then any prior month.

Tax bill and Roy Moore endorsement.

That makes sense.