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exnaderite
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« on: July 20, 2010, 11:10:11 PM »

Again, time preference solves this problem. If this were true, everybody would be a lender and nobody would be a borrower out of expectation of more money in the future. Fortunately, people have more desire for money now than for money in the future, which raises the price of the former.
But this hasn't happened in the real world. And besides, a rising value of each unit of money is useless if you lose your job thanks to a sustained fall in aggregate demand.

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No. When Spain plundered the gold and silver of Mexico and and Peru, the massive and sudden increase in the Spanish money supply caused so much inflation that it wrecked any incentive to create technological innovations or a domestic industry. Only in the past decade has Spain fully returned to the European mainstream. When Ming Dynasty China experienced a massive influx of Spanish silver (in exchange for tea, porcelain, etc), the resulting inflation contributed to the peasant revolt which led to the collapse of the Ming Dynasty.

Likewise, the gold (or any limited metal) standard is simply unable to prevent massive and sudden expansions in money supply, and periodically adjusting the conversion rate makes it meaningless.

Finally, there will be a huge incentive to short the gold-backed dollar. Such a move will most likely cause high unemployment and a long recession. Congress will haul the Fed Chairman and Treasury officials for grilling every week. Eventually you'll lead to something like Argentina in 2001.
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2010, 02:35:58 AM »

What do you mean it hasn't happened in the real world? Are banks suddenly charging negative interest rates? To give a real life example of price deflation, consider Apple products. They tend to depreciate in price drastically over a period of a mere few months, yet their stores are always full of people ready to buy their products. They consider the reward for getting an Apple product a few months earlier to be worth the cost of buying it a few months earlier.
Technology is improving at an extremely fast pace which makes falling prices attractive, which is definitely not true for anything else. Perhaps some are willing to pay $200 more to enjoy the iWhatever for several more months in advance, but I've never heard of anyone paying $200000 more to enjoy a newly built house several months in advance, or anyone paying $50000 more to enjoy the latest BMW several months in advance. You can't compare the iWhatever to the entire economy.

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It doesn't matter if a dollar loses its value over the long term (that the amount of metal in each coin always decreases over time is something Adam Smith observed), as long as income is increasing as well, and as long as real interest rates are positive (alas, something that should have happened five years ago). As for whether Spain had a real free-market economy is beside the point: even in a free market economy the gold would have caused Spanish inflation to soar and for the gold to flood out into Europe, eventually impoverishing the country. Boom-bust cycles were much stronger when gold/silver was the basis of currency. Finally, there is no such contradiction; I'm just stating that precious metals are just another commodity and are not a foolproof way at storing value. It sure beats paper with ever-increasing digits, though.
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