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Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas
Ray Goldfield
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« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2016, 05:50:42 PM »

And the Palestinian Arabs are rightful residents of the area as well. There's no point in arguing with that. That's why roughly 2/3rds of Mandatory Palestine was carved out for them when it was partitioned, with the remaining third remaining in British hands until it was eventually ceded to the Jewish reclamation movement.

In that case it's no problem if we move all the Israelis to Antarctican Peninsula, I mean it's much bigger than Israel.

Quality of the land count more than the amount of land.

Neither parcel of land has significant natural reserves, at least Israel didn't until they spent decades on innovation.

Regardless, four wars of genocidal aggression and winding up with what you started with sounds pretty good to me. But as long as the Hashemites are able to keep their murderous grip on Jordan, the conflict is unresolveable.
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Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas
Ray Goldfield
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,022


« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2016, 05:51:41 PM »

The Israeli government doesn't seem to understand that politics is a pendulum. The Democrats will regain power (hell, they won more votes this year, imagine if Trump is hated how they'll do). Netanyahu openly allying Trump and the GOP is good for the short term, but horrific for Israel in the long term. They need the Democrats more. GOP support is a given, but they continually spit in the faces of Democrats who already feel alienated.

You may have missed it, but 90% of Democrats not leaving office in three weeks (assuming an orderly transition of power) are condemning the Obama administration.

This isn't Israel vs. America - at least not yet. It's America and Israel vs. Obama and the UN.
You might not realize what you're implying here, but you just said that Obama is a traitor to the United States because he didn't support Israel's settlements. You also implied the people of the United States now oppose Obama and every single nation in the world other than Israel.

Neither of those statements are remotely true.

That's not remotely what I said.

What I said was that Obama sided with the UN against Israel and the wishes of the vast majority of the American public.

That is objectively true.

Also, the resolution wasn't about settlements.

I doubt the vast majority of the American public is even aware that anything happened or has a view on UN resolutions relating to Israel generally.

And what was the resolution about if it wasn't about settlements??

Jerusalem, the capital of Israel.

East Jerusalem was mentioned, but not all of Jerusalem. All capital buildings are in West Jerusalem. In any case, the resolution is about "Israeli settlements", explicitly, and not East Jerusalem only.

It declares the Western Wall a settlement.

You should know that this is the ultimate poison pill that ends any conversations about peace for the next generation. The Obama administration did not seek to have this removed before choosing to support it. They want as bloody a fight as they can get.
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