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heatmaster
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« on: April 02, 2015, 02:25:11 AM »

I agree with the premise that Bush has it all, brand name identification,  he's as conservative as you get, not stupid conservative enough, a good deal more than Romney ever could be, he makes the right noises on immigration which could be key in expanding beyond the base, he has the money,  is the establishment guy & every establishment candidate since 1960 has won the nomination,  the exception it could be argued was in 1964, but we all know what happened there don't we. It's any wonder why the purist conservatives keep losing, so Cruz ain't going anywhere fast, he might win kudos with the kamikaze element, but it's the Independent s other groups that are the deciding factor, that's how come the "grownups" within the Republican party should and will prevail and conservatives in there heart of hearts know this, the tea - party element are another incarnation of the John Birch society,  purists to the extreme & where did they go? No where. So the likes of Cruz,  Huckabee & Santorum as well as Paul are basically cut from the same cloth. Bush for that very reason will emerge as the other guy who can take on Hillary,  by the by, she's not likeable and doesn't sell well on the trust issue and if this email affair is a reminder of the trust issue, Hillary has herself to blame for that. The sense of entitlement and this attitude about pulling all sorts of strokes and it doesn't matter. But don't take my word for it, look at the polls. So Jeb will be the guy😊
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2015, 07:07:02 AM »

If it turns out that Hillary is the Democrats choice, I can imagine that on July 21, as Republicans leave Cleveland with the moolah & momentum as well as Bush preaching the right message & Hillary is finding it difficult to define Jeb in negative terms, Hillary will start using sexism & class wedge issues, basically throwing a hissy, as she and her husband have that idea of entitlement and little else to sell on the idea of a Hillary presidency, except her 'experience' & she is a Democrat. She is being defined by the Trust issue, not well liked, it's now a case of diminishing returns. Jeb on the other, is likeable enough,  the sort of guy, you could have a beer with and chat about all sorts. He has smarts. If he is smart enough and picks Susanna Martinez, makes the west, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada & New Mexico ideal hunting ground for Republicans. Martinez as woman nullifies the sexism issue, she would offer more positives if Carly Fiorina doesn't make the V.P. slot. Dynasty issues are another no no, because then it's a case of the "pot calling the kettle black" I'm amazed that Hillary hasn't a better argument than the one she has, which I'm not sure what exactly it is, apart from the "I'm a woman and I'm a woman" argument. She reminds me of a person who is in the race, but not really sure of the reason. Jeb I think has been looking at America in the era of Obama and must be wondering of what was all the hype about Obama. Well I'm looking forward to the next chapter of this electoral season😊
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2015, 10:06:54 AM »

Ted Cruz pretty much calls every one a RHINO,  if you don't agree with his world view.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2015, 02:42:14 PM »

Devils30 you desperately cling to the idea that Jeb Bush is going to be tarred with the same brush that his brother was tarred with, you do this, to compensate for the notion that Democrats know but won't publicly admit, that Jeb Bush is bar far more stronger than any other Republican. For all his apparent faults, he represents a higher standard than Hillary Clinton and if Democrats think the "blame George W. Bush" narrative works, then delusional thinking comes into play and Obama's presidency is the elephant in the room and "Obama fatigue" trumps "Bush fatigue" any day of the week. Hillary's trust barometer will be a factor - you remember emailgate?  Foreign money donations to the Clinton Foundation stinks to high heaven's as well as Benghazi, Democrats dismiss these "issues" as creations of the Republican party or a right wing conspiracy. They are real and if they are creations, then it was Hillary or Obama who caused such a dynamic. The calculus now being offered, is Hillary is orchestrating  the leaks in order to "immunize" her and remove these as issues in advance of her campaign. But If this is the case, there are an awful lot of potential lose ends that remain untied, and these could represent hazards, and like all landmines they have the capacity to explode at the most inopportune times.   So the way I see things, Jeb Bush could be a lot more stronger in the final analysis and Hillary's vulnerabilities offer all sorts of juicy opportunities for Republicans and all those "527's" which are going to crop up. That works for me 😊
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2015, 06:25:23 PM »

Just because he is a Bush doesn't mean squat, he will use the brand when it suits him, but I think most voters are intelligent enough to be able to distinguish between two brother's,  Jeb is not George W. & George W. is not Jeb. They are equally informed about Hillary and her flagrant disregard for the rules that everyone else is obliged to live. I believe the Clinton's are closet sociopaths and are inately incapable of abiding by the rules set up to govern behaviour. So the idea that Jeb is obliged to respond to any charges made against his brother is so Un American, you heard of the phrase "I'm not my brother's keeper"? It's like if my brother is a psychopath, does that mean I'm one too? So there's no evidence to suggest he is anything remotely like his older brother, not in temperament and certainly not in ideology?
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