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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: March 04, 2009, 08:14:53 PM »

I agree that the idea that Christianity is "moderate-tempered" and "does not generally provoke zealotry" is absurd, but this "inquisition-and-witch-trials" cliche is bullshit as well. It does not reflect accurately the reality of Christianity before industrialisation, before urbanisation and before mass (as opposed to popular) culture (the latter came some distance after the first two, of course). If you want to point out that, actually, there's nothing notably "moderate-tempered" about Christianity, you should look at (for example) what went on during the Reformation, or during various religious conflicts in the centuries after. Or even at the extraordinary power of religious revivals on communities and individuals before the rise of mass culture (which is something that even Americans don't quite get as contemporary American revivalism is itself a product of mass culture).
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 04:47:28 PM »

How fascinating that you think you have the right to determine whether someone is a real Christian or not based on how they vote.

Of course, that you then went on to praise a Blubb post makes me think that you might be a (not very original) troll after all.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 05:00:35 PM »

How fascinating that you think you have the right to determine whether someone is a real Christian or not based on how they vote.

Of course, that you then went on to praise a Blubb post makes me think that you might be a (not very original) troll after all.

Oh true -- I forgot the atlas rule -- if someone is a conservative and or a Christian he is a troll , a sock or a hack.  Or all three.  I will try to remember in the future.

Mmmm... I'm a Christian, actually. Think you'll have to try harder.

Anyway, the issue isn't your professed political affliation; it's the cartoonish nature of your politics (to the extent that thou quoted an obvious troll in an approving way). I suppose it's also possible that you're 13 or something.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2009, 06:26:06 AM »

why would anyone think Jesus was in favor of capitalism?

I don't think that anyone does, really. It's just that people are more than capable of holding deeply contradictory beliefs.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2009, 07:33:12 AM »

Sort of difficult for Jesus to have been in favour or against capitalism, as such, because capitalism wouldn't exist for almost two thousand years or so. Of course, it's hard to deny that capitalism (and various spin-offs such as consumerism) directly contradicts Jesus's teachings, based, as they are, on greed, selfishness and exploitation.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2009, 06:57:36 PM »

I think you need to avoid confusing "liberal" (for want of a better word) Christian groups with Christians who happen to be on the political left. There's often a huge difference; think of that old stereotype of a Liverpool docker with a framed picture of Karl Marx next to a Crucifix and a statue of the Virgin Mary...
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2009, 08:15:00 PM »

think of that old stereotype of a Liverpool docker with a framed picture of Karl Marx next to a Crucifix and a statue of the Virgin Mary...

I think this stereotype was lost somewhere over the Atlantic Ocean Tongue

Well you know it now Tongue
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