Official West Virginia Democratic Primary Discussion Thread...

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How would one deduce that?

Well, that would logically be about 54% female at most, no?  It's generally closer to 60%.

Yes, I see that now. There is no competing primary in a state without party registration no?

West Virginia has party registration, and there is a competing primary, although no one that is cared about.  WV is semi-open but that doesn't matter much since there are like three independents in the entire state.

More like nine these days. Three a couple of decades back though.

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That is the scenic route way of saying I don't know squat about the state.

Your loss; it's fascinating.

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Which areas do you guys think that Edwards will perform the best?

I don't really expect massive differences, but I guess the east?

Paging Al!

If the patterns of elsewhere hold, then historically Democratic areas that aren't dominated by one industrial milieu or another. If. The word is if.

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Which areas do you guys think that Edwards will perform the best?

I don't really expect massive differences, but I guess the east?

Paging Al!

If the patterns of elsewhere hold, then historically Democratic areas that aren't dominated by one industrial milieu or another. If. The word is if.

Does that mean rural hicks in English? 

Hehe. If you like.

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There aren't many Catholics in West Virginia. The area with the largest (and only significant) population of Catholics is the Northern panhandle (ie; Wheeling, Weirton, etc). Bearing in mind how the Pittsburgh metropolitan area (and Steubenville et al on the other side) voted you wouldn't think it great territory for Obama. But who knows.

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Monogolia county 48-47 Clinton

Only about a tenth in. Depending on where that tenth is...

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What's with Cabell?

Not got the results in front of me (about to go to be), but Cabell is basically Huntington and surrounds. By WV standards it's a fairly white collar city and has a large student population. No idea if that's any help.

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I'm sure the Clinton campaign is ready to unleash the moonshine in Eastern Kentucky too.

Yay votebuying!

It's part of the culture of the area and needs to be respected

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So then, did McDowell vote any differently from the other southern coalfield counties [qm]

Slightly; Obama actually broke 20% there.

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I think it's pretty ridiculous that whites are only "working class" if they live in Appalachia.

Appalachia is unusual for the States in that a majority of whites there are working class.

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Were there any counties where Edwards beat Obama?  Will Edwards be allocated delegates?

edwards came within 80 votes of obama in gilmer county.

Which actually has a small college in it, interestingly enough.

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Soooooo... let's look who did well where. Clinton first:



Much the expected pattern; strong-to-overwhelming support in the southern and central coalfields and also in some random rural Republican counties (see also eastern Ohio). Weakest support in the eastern panhandle (part of the Washington metropolitan area), in Monongalia (where there be quite a few people in professional occupations (for WV) and students) and Ohio (Wheeling was always less working class than the surronding area). And now Obama:



The most striking thing is his extremely poor showing in the southern and central coalfields (McDowell slightly less worse than the rest, maybe because of the remains of a once larger Black minority). There's also a noticable urban-rural division here; Charleston, Huntington, Morgantown and Wheeling were all less dreadful than the rest of the state. Best area the eastern panhandle, of course.
Further note; 30% in Upshur county which is historically (very) Republican. You might remember it from the Sago disaster. And now for 'Edwards'...



'His' vote was quite evenly spread, but all the same was usually highest in the sort of places I'd expected; (usually) historically Democratic rural areas without a strong industrial working class milieu. Some of the exceptions to that pattern are interesting though.

It may be worth comparing 'Edwards 08' to both Edwards and Lieberman in 2004.