Canada 2008: Official Thread

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Ah, the "he can speak English!" bump

In the English language debate, Stephane Dion pretty much proved his English is worse than Gilles Duceppe's. 

Yes, but everyone knew that anyway.

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Ah, the "he can speak English!" bump

In the English language debate, Stephane Dion pretty much proved his English is worse than Gilles Duceppe's.

Yes, but everyone knew that anyway.

Lowered Expectations, is it?

Guess so, yeah. Though it's a double standard, isn't it. Most Anglophone Canadians speak worse French than Dion does English.

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St John's East poll:

Jack Harris (NDP) 52.3%
Walter Noel (Lib) 8.7%
Craig Westcott (Cons) 8.2%
Undecided 30.4%

WTF

Harris is backed by Williams.

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How is Richard Côté related to Guy Côté? He's the Bloc candidate against Arthur.

At some level, almost certainly. Could be a long way back though.

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(Actually there's no chance; I don't want my seat falling to Harper so I'm switching from Green to Liberal - hopefully I'm not the only one).

Where bist thou live?

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That's if he can hold his seat. Though the swing there will be lower (maybe a lot lower) than the norm of course... perhaps he's a lot safer than he looks on paper.

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More minority governments, presumably.

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Canada has minority administrations, not coalitions.

I can't recall any federal coalitions off the top of my head (though there has been coalition governments provincially, Ontario for starters).

There was a de facto Liberal-NDP coalition in the early '70's, but I think that's as close as it gets since the '30's IIRC.

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Collapse is far too strong a word. As for the vanishing possibility of a majority, I think, yeah, a failure to be seen to do something about the trouble in financeland has a lot to do with that.

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All sorts of rumours have been coming out of that weirdly named riding. Probably best to ignore all of them.

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If that lot be anything to go by, I'd like Nanos to be the most accurate again...

btw, currently working on a really, really bad riding outline map all of me own. So bad that it's basically impressionistic. But so what.

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Appallingly innacurate in places, but, meh, whatever. That's not really the point... Edmonton is especially awful... and the general love for straight lines makes a mockery of things as well... oh well...

...oh and maps of the grey areas (in the same style) will be up tomorrow-ish).

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lol @ Northern Ontario

Yeah, lakes and straight lines everywhere. Eventually decided not to bother with the lakes. Straight lines don't cease being a problem. Aaaaagh. Um. But at least you can't tell where everything is, which is something, I guess.

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Yes, that is a fair bit worse than most of your work. But still far better than anything I could but together.

All the lines are more-or-less my own work (it's usually *saner* to just look for blank maps and make changes to them, but I couldn't find an appropriate one this time so...) which really shows up in some places (U.S border for example). And it was done in about three hours of tea-fueled madness late at night...

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hmm... Layton is the most popular leader in Quebec and Atlantic Canada.

Well he is a Quebecker...

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First set of insets...



Some are better than others...

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how are you making these, anyways?

Basically they're sketches from other maps stiched together. Or something like that. Programme used is Paint, because I'm cheap.

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Yeah, that one's awful...

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Angus Reid poll of Saskatchewan...

Con 40%, NDP 35%, Lib 17%, Green 7%

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If this were to actually take place, would the NDP win more than a couple seats?

If (if, if, if...) the Party really does trail by just 5pts they could end up with just a seat here and a seat there or come close to sweeping the province. It would depend on where that sort of increase in their vote were to come from, basically. Voting patterns in Saskatchewan can be a little strange and the riding boundaries are... special.

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If this were to actually take place, would the NDP win more than a couple seats?

If (if, if, if...) the Party really does trail by just 5pts they could end up with just a seat here and a seat there or come close to sweeping the province. It would depend on where that sort of increase in their vote were to come from, basically. Voting patterns in Saskatchewan can be a little strange and the riding boundaries are... special.

Special in what sort of way?

Take a close look at the SW corner...

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Toronto:

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...and finally...

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You forgot the back river (Riviere des Prairies, between Montreal and Laval)

Decided not to bother with it; I think I drew most of it as being inside the Laval seats (but I drew the outline of this a while before the individual ridings...)

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2006 results:

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Testing out the colours for the party maps using Montreal: