Red and Blue

[Filuwaúrdjan]

In the South the Democrats usually do better in dirt poor rural areas than anywhere else... hell look at the 2002 NC Senate election...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Order of preference:

1. Inner city
2. Country, not in town
3. Middle Suburbs
4. Country Town
5. Outer Suburbs
6. Under the sea

Maybe swap 5 and 6

I can't stand the suburbs.  Waste of space. Give it to me COMPACT.

4-2-1-6-3-5

I would rather die than live in suburbia (of course there's a difference between a suburb and suburbia... working class suburbs are not suburban)

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Order of preference:

1. Inner city
2. Country, not in town
3. Middle Suburbs
4. Country Town
5. Outer Suburbs
6. Under the sea

Maybe swap 5 and 6

I can't stand the suburbs.  Waste of space. Give it to me COMPACT.

4-2-1-6-3-5

I would rather die than live in suburbia (of course there's a difference between a suburb and suburbia... working class suburbs are not suburban)

Yes they are...They can be even worse than the other kind.

I was thinking of the Tyneside type more than anything else... places like Bootle or St Denis are hell on earth though...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I don't know the Tyneside suburbs. But I wasn't thinking of ghetto extremes either.
I was just thinking of slabs of concrete like the Frankfurt suburbs of Steinbach or Schwalbach, or Frankfurt's own Nordweststadt. Not affluent (unlike most of Frankfurt's Northwestern suburbs), incredibly dull (like most but not all of them), just "get me out of here" style places.
Now, Mörfelden-Walldorf or Raunheim, to the Southwest, also kind of suburban, also poor, have a very different feel. I could live there if I had too. (Except that Raunheim is terribly loud because of all the planes coming in just over your head.)

Sounds like Telford (not the older areas like Dawley or Ironbridge though. I like them. Telford centre is a dump though)