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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: July 12, 2021, 01:10:39 PM »

Much better these days when everyone is poor and starving equally, apart from senior Party officials of course. After a certain point 'you don't want Mr Jones to run the farm again, do you?' loses any value as a serious argument.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2021, 12:49:16 PM »

Why don't you respond directly instead of passive aggressively commenting after me in reference to my comment?

Anyway, it's pretty obvious what the goal is here, and it's not wealth for the masses of Cuba. "Everyone is poor and starving equally" jokes are a kiddie-tier criticism of leftist government.

I don't think there was anything particularly passive about my post. And while that classic critique is certainly very simple is it actually wrong? No, it is obviously and objectively correct. The people are poor, and during the present economic crisis are also in a loose sense 'starving' as well, and are so because the country's economic system does not work.* The government is also extremely repressive and denies people even the most basic of political and social rights. I do not think we should expect to be particularly surprised that a government that cannot feed its people but is inordinately fond of locking them up for making unapproved jokes might actually be rather unpopular. That the United States has generally been a very bad neighbour and has often interfered in a way that makes a difficult situation worse does not alter any of that or make any of it remotely excusable.

*'Socialist' autarky on a foundation of tourism and exports from cash-crop plantations? There are a few fairly obvious problems there...
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2021, 01:25:03 PM »

The best analogy would be perhaps the relationship between Britain and Argentina during the early decades of the 20th century.
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2021, 10:19:03 AM »

No, what Young Labour actually shows is how much the party's youth section has been a factional bin fire since basically time immemorial Wink

Which is why it should be abolished as all it does is train people who genuinely don't know any better (how the hell do you at that age?) in the worst patterns of behaviour. There's something deeply horrifying about seeing people half my age engage in vicious bullying over internal THIGMOO drama that happened before I was born...
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