People who want Dems to move to right - what issues do they have to drop?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Electorally [and quite crudely] speaking the national Democrats problem is pretty simple; it's perceived to be out of touch with it's traditional base (ie; working class (especially ethnic) voters) and is perceived to be in bed with what (for want of a better word) can be described as out of touch liberal elitists (yes, it's a cliche. So?).
In general adopting policies that appeal to the former and dropping the pet policies of the latter, would be a good idea.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Electorally [and quite crudely] speaking the national Democrats problem is pretty simple; it's perceived to be out of touch with it's traditional base (ie; working class (especially ethnic) voters) and is perceived to be in bed with what (for want of a better word) can be described as out of touch liberal elitists (yes, it's a cliche. So?).
In general adopting policies that appeal to the former and dropping the pet policies of the latter, would be a good idea.

I hear them mindlessly bash liberals like me all the time, but they seem to be short on ]specifics. I want you to present real changes on real issues, not mindless GOP propaganda.

Dropping that sort of attitude would be a great start

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Hey, dumbsh**t, I asked for specifics, not for mindless liberal bashing.

Dropping that sort of attitude would be a great start

But in all seriousness... abortion is an obvious one. Cultural issues in general (especially religion related). At the same time a move to the left on certain issues (healthcare for example) would be a good idea.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

So what do you say to the fact that 65% of Americans think that Roe vs. Wade should be upheld?

Most Americans seem to think that without Roe v Wade all abortion would be illegal (which is o/c not the case).
Most Americans certainly do not support unrestricted abortion on demand; something that the Democratic party is associated with by a lot of people. Being thought of as NARAL's bitches isn't a great electoral selling point.

You should note that back in the early '80's the House Democratic leadership put a lot of effort into stopping abortion becoming a *major* issue.

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California is more socially liberal than average and the proposition was apparently associated (at least in some way) with an unpopular governer etc.
Besides *notification* isn't the problem to a lot of people...

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Religion in general (especially the sneering at deeply religious people). Association with counter-culture stuff in general (and yes, I know you asked for specifics. But specifics aren't the problem).

The best thing to do would to officially not even *have* a position of cultural issues...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Got a poll or are you just speculating?

It's the only logical answer; most Americans want more restrictions on abortions and bans on late term abortions.

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Are you paranoid or something?

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California is clearly not reflective of America as a whole on those issues. Besides, have they ever voted on whether to ban late term abortions or not? Just curious.

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Eh? Abortion was already a major political issue by then. They heyday of keeping as quiet as possible over it was back in the early '80's; and why look, the Democrats had majorities in the House throughout that period! And, unlike today, they actually had a competent leader...

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The legality of late term abortions. The legality of abortion-on-demand. And so on.
 

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Want me to put this another way? Wave the white flag in the "culture war".