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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: July 31, 2005, 03:53:53 PM »

I think I've made my position on climate change fairly clear on several occasions in the recent past...
Personally I don't like a lot of the arguements from either side... scaremongering or chronic denial... and both founded (up to a point) on dodgy science.
Why can't we all accept that:

1. Climate Change (note *not* "Global Warming"... which is innacurate unless you have a thing for overall global tempreture. And I can't think of a more useless sort of statistic) is real
2. Some is natural
3. Some is the result of human activity
4. In the long run it doesn't matter as the Ice is coming back in a few thousand years
5. It could, however, have some serious short term effects on certain low lying areas
6. Something should be done to cut back on emmisions etc.
7. China fitting it's smokestacks with filters (like everyone else) would be a welcome start
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2005, 08:05:29 AM »

Hey, If by not using my computer I could sing handedly stop global warming, I would, but it is beyond mine, or really anyone's control at this point.

The climate is never under control though. The Planet is never under control... and it isn't fair and isn't nice (look at the South Asian Tsunami) except in an oddly bittersweet way; take volcanos for instance. A bad eruption can kill thousands and change the global climate for quite a while (Tambora is the best example) something than can also kill thousands due to famine and all that.
But at the same time, volcanos do bring benifits; fertile soils are the most obvious (and the main reason why so many people live so close to them) but there are others as well (an excellent supply of building stone is another).
It's the same with things like flood plains, or living on low lying islands.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2005, 02:24:02 PM »

Yes, we have already lost. Climate change is pretty much beyond anyone's control.

Was it ever under anyone's control?
Something you could do is get paranoid about saving energy (as an example: I always turn my computor screen off when I go to get a drink or whatever) and try to get other people to do the same.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2005, 02:39:12 PM »

Your computer screen doesn't use much energy at all. It probably takes more to turn it on than it does to leave it on to go to the fridge.

You don't know how far away my fridge is do you? Grin
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2005, 03:40:13 PM »

I leave my computer on all the time. I hear its not good to turn the computer off and on continually on a daily basis.

I only turn the screen off
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