Don't count Dean out

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I agree with GWBfan(damn these sensible republicans wrecking those carefully constructed stereotypes!), Dean could win.

I remember how shocked people over here were when some unwashed Bubba from Arkansas toppled Bush 41 in 1992.
People literally could not belive it(and there were jokes along the lines of "but can President-Elect Clinton find his way out of Arkansas?")

The American electorate is probably the most fickle in world and can be a pain to predict.

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  Clinton won in 92, by running towrds the center, and he did not have a leftist history as Gov of AR, and in fact his record if anything was right of center. That combined with he fact that the Democratic congress all during the Bush presidency(The congress' elected bteween 86 to 92 was the peak of the liberals dominence of congress) did everything they could to damage the Bush presidency and combined with the fact Bush ran a very inept re election campaign that was quite clueless is what produced Clinton.

  As for Reagan, he might have been viewed as far to the right, but he was the Gov of the most populated state of the nation, and that automatically gave him a base to work with.

Um... Clinton had a far more left wing record in AR than Dean has in VT(remember Howie's fetish about balanced budgets?)

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   Realpolitik, do you know anything about Clintons record in AR before the 92 election? He never took on any "hot" subject, AR still does not have a state civil rights law, and Clinton never attempted to get one passed when he was Gov there, he never discussed guns, and he tried to push a pro business enviroment.

Speaking as an ignorant foreigner who obviously does not really understand the reality of U.S politics in the way a supporter of the Constitution Party does...

I seem to remember that Clinton modernised Arkansas a hell of a lot(and was too ambitious at his first try)
Whereas Dean had a fetish for balanced budgets, said some stuff about the enviroment in a state like Vermont and signed a civil unions bill.

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But every Perot vote would not have gone to Dole.