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Question: ...would have made the best president?
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dennis hastert
 
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newt gingrich
 
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tom foley
 
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jim wright
 
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tip o'neill
 
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: May 08, 2005, 02:28:10 AM »

Tip
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2005, 02:55:19 AM »

Tip O'Neill was a disgrace to our country.

Er... how exactly?
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2005, 02:59:14 AM »

He was the worst kind of person. An incompetent idiot who thought he knew everything.

Evidence?
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2005, 03:34:39 AM »

Uh huh. Most people don't actually think the '80's discredited O'Neill you know. But I expect you think that they are idiots as well?
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2005, 03:50:11 AM »

Objective? You are not objective.

As for polls, when O'Neill retired he had higher approval ratings than Reagan.
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2005, 03:58:53 AM »

Yes, objective. Objective analysis.

Where? I don't see any. Just because you agree with a certain point of view doesn't mean that said point of view is "objective". You are not God.

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Really? I'd say it indicates that most people don't think he was "utterly discredited".

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Right. You're saying that O'Neill was "utterly discredited" because of one remark? Interesting. How "objective".
Did you know that on a personal level O'Neill and Reagan actually got on with each other fairly well (most of the time)?
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2005, 04:29:23 AM »

Where is your objective analysis? I don't see any.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2005, 05:07:46 AM »

Tip blunted the harsher aspects of Reagan's agenda and although Reagan got the better of him in the first year and a half, after then (and especially after the '82 MidTerms) Tip usually came out on top. He was a pretty effective check on the executive, maybe that why you don't like him?
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