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Question: Is this map accurate?
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Yes
 
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No
 
#3
Absurdly biased
 
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: May 01, 2005, 11:37:04 AM »

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/usa-riot.htm
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2005, 12:43:59 PM »

The map at the top of the thread is extremely deceptive; look at the apparent methodology.

Compare that map to the map in the link I posted
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2005, 12:51:54 PM »

Can you read?
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2005, 01:10:29 PM »

If you have a scrap of intellectual honesty in you, you'll know what's misleading about it.
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2005, 01:39:38 PM »

It's not actually my map. It's This guys.

I hate it (really, really hate it) when people distort maps to make petty points; I think it's because I watched a TV programme on it when I was little.

The blue/red map is distorting the map to make a cheap political point. The scale is disgraceful as well.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2005, 01:48:00 PM »

You mean the "swing" pun? Yeah, not nice.

Not just that: look at the values in the scale.

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Ah... I see now
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2005, 01:49:32 PM »

So, after making us play the guessing game, it is the colours to which you object?

The colours used to show the statistics in map form are important

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I don't care what the point was supposed to be. That map is intellectually dishonest filth.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2005, 05:23:11 PM »


0-3
4-10
11+

Makes no logical sense. Makes a lot of sense if your fiddling a map to prove a point.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2005, 06:45:59 AM »

Think about what changing the categories might create...yeah, exactly, possibly some fewer swing states, nothing else. I fail to see how fiddling that way creates a more polarized picture.
Equal intervals don't actually make much sense in creating a meaningful map. Percentiles are much better. Natural breaks are even better. Not that I know whether his map obeyed any of these.
And I'd like to know what the maximum is. Maybe he should have used a few shades more.
But, yes, of course, this map is trying to make a cheap political point, ie how similar this map is to the current political alignment in the US, and is leaving out such subtleties.

The problem is the highest and lowest values; why 1-3 for the first? That's dodgy as hell. I suspect the higher limit plays a similer trick, but I don't especially want to wade through statistics on lynchings.

I'm *not* denying that most lynchings happend in the South, what sort of idiot would deny that, what I hate about that map is the distortions to make it "fit" with the states that voted for Bush.

O/c this can be played both ways, I bet if you got the stats by county, it would show more lynchings in counties lost by Bush than won by him (most lynchings happend in the Black Belt IIRC). And it would be just as intellectually dishonest.
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