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Question: Will "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" end up "rotten" (under 60%) on Rotten Tomatoes?
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: December 04, 2012, 08:10:38 PM »

The project has been rotten from the start and has only become more so. The first rule of a good adaptation is to show respect for the spirit of the source material. It might actually be the only rule. This project, however...
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 09:34:00 AM »

True, but The Hobbit tends to move from one event to the next at lightning speed.  In the book, many of the dwarves get no character development and barely speak, many events happen with very little dialog or elaboration on detail.  Events that would be big action set pieces in a film happen in about two pages in the book.

And in adding such padding you ruin the spirit of the thing utterly, turning it into yet another piece of derivative Fantasyland trash.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2012, 11:36:45 AM »

Xahar gets it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2012, 01:37:18 PM »

That would be a LOT more than could ever be said about The Two Towers.

I maintain that Faramir should consider consulting his lawyers with the aim of suing Jackson for libel. The case is overwhelming.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2012, 05:16:42 AM »

Inability to edit, plus a belief that they can get away with anything and still end up with a commercial success.
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2012, 12:47:03 PM »


Worse than the Return of the King film for that?
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2012, 05:04:50 PM »

Literary purity is not even a concept.
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2012, 05:18:13 PM »


That's not what I think.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2012, 05:20:25 PM »

Rambling and incoherent this will be, the last post on the subject... it will not...

Anyway, the issue is a fairly standard one with the adaptation of anything; all adaptations will inevitably change many things. Scenes must be cut. Characters must be cut. Some scenes probably have to be added - the grammar of film - and television - is different to that of the novel - sometimes characters will pretty much have to be added as well. Many important plot details will change, at least a little bit. Most people understand this, at least up to a point.

The main issue is always whether the feel - I'm tired and can't think of a better word at the moment - of the source material is kept or at least respected. Because if it isn't, then it's questionable whether the finished product is even really an adaptation at all. And people are absolutely entitled to be annoyed when that kind of thing happens; the idea that there's anything wrong in being so is ludicrous.

Influences on the source material itself are irrelevant to this point.
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2012, 06:45:00 PM »


That's just the sort of thing a snob would say, snob!
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