'Tories have £15m debt' (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 31, 2024, 10:34:10 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  International General Discussion (Moderators: afleitch, Hash)
  'Tories have £15m debt' (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: 'Tories have £15m debt'  (Read 1922 times)
Filuwaúrdjan
Realpolitik
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 67,890
United Kingdom


« on: December 07, 2004, 05:16:16 AM »

The Tories used to win a third of the working class vote and held seats in Sunderland (you're eyesite is fine), Liverpool (they actually had a majority of L'pool seats until 1964), the northern (ie: working class) end of Manchester... etc, etc.
They held Hartlepool until 1964 and it was marginal for years afterwards (in the recent by-election there, they came FOURTH).

The collapse of working class Toryism is one of the most unreported trends of the last 30 odd years.
Logged
Filuwaúrdjan
Realpolitik
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 67,890
United Kingdom


« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2004, 05:48:23 AM »

The collapse of working class Toryism is one of the most unreported trends of the last 30 odd years.

It seems to me that the Tories and Repubs are on opposite tracks.  Whereas, the Tories are losing favo(u)r with the working class, the Republcans have been picking up a sizeable portion of it.  The Tories need to find a wedge issue;)

The wedge issue trick probably won't work as well here because there's only one office voted for in general elections (M.P's).

A predominantly working class area in the U.S where wedge issues (in this case abortion) have worked well for Republican Presidential candidates is SW Pennsylvania, where they've slowly made large inroads since the late '80's.
But this hasn't rubbed off down ticket... the area still sends Democrats to Harrisburg by lopsided margins and would do the same at Congressional level if the districts weren't so gerrymandered.
Logged
Filuwaúrdjan
Realpolitik
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 67,890
United Kingdom


« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2004, 03:53:53 PM »

Interesting that the Tories still represent the two rich downtown neighborhoods (Kensington and the City). In the US, those would be the most uppity of Democrat districts--think Henry Waxman's Westwood or Carolyn Maloney's Upper East Side.

Cities of London & Westminister (or is it the other way round?) possibly (although the more politically "downtown" seat is Regents Park & North Kensington, a safe Labour seat nowadays), but not Kensignton & Chelsea (you don't really get anywhere like it in the U.S nowadays...)

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.

North Southwark & Bermondsey (then called Bermondsey) was a Labour stronghold until a vicious by-election in the '80's when Simon Hughes (Lib) won it... he's made it his personal fiefdom and wins on the back of a huge personal vote (although he nearly went down in '97)
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.023 seconds with 11 queries.