Wales 2011 - Results Thread

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Off to get a little bit of sleep now; or an attempt to. Looks good so far.

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Cardiff North and Cardiff Central not in yet. But the Tories held their Pembrokeshire seats. Which means that their leader - who sits on the list - is out.

Caerphilly not even slightly close. Time for someone to call it a day...

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Apparently we've taken Cardiff Central by thirty eight votes

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We've gained Cardiff North as well... I think. BBC are not doing very well...

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Both confirmed elsewhere. Anyways, UKIP have not won a seat on the South Wales East regional list, despite earlier speculation to the contrary.

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Mystery surrounds the BBC's decision to illustrate the National Assembly election with this particular photo from a count:

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Excellent. UKIP can DIAF.

That - and the ironic defeat of that nasty little sh!t Bourne - are things that people of all parties can come together to celebrate.

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The Greens didn't make it.

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Full results from the Battle of the Morgans:

Julie Morgan, Labour, 47.6
Jonathan Morgan*, Con, 42.4
Ben Foday, Plaid, 5.4
Matt Smith, LDem, 4.6

Morgan was an excellent MP and ought to be an excellent MP as well. She's also performed Labour quite a service; Morgan was one of the brighter people in the Tory group and would likely have become leader what with Bourne going down. As it is...

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And Cardiff Central...

Jenny Rathbone, Labour, 37.9
Nigel Howells, LDem, 37.7
Matthew Smith, Con, 15.1
Christopher Williams, Plaid, 7.2
Mathab Khan, Ind, 2.2

Delightful result; I'd be hoping for this one for a while

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Those are the anglicized spellings though. Abertyleri has no ll. (Bedwellte does, of course.)

Still used to throw people

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LDs hung onto a list seat in SWW by 54 votes (versu Plaid).

Missed that. Sh!t. Peter Black is a self-righteous prick and his defeat would have been rather sweet.

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Reports that IWJ has held Ynys Môn. Given that there were no whispers this time round, no surprise,

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Arfon is a Plaid hold and looks from the BBC figures like a good result for them; but no votes for the LibDems? And some other details missing as well. wtf?

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The totals don't add to the total vote cast - presumably they just forgot to enter the LD's 4.6% of the vote.

Ah, right. lol.

We'd have done better if the original candidate hadn't suddenly resigned in a hissy fit at the end of February

Not that it matters; not a priority seat outside Westminster elections.

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Yes. Incumbent AM was probably the most right-wing Plaid ever had elected to the Assembly; he had a massive personal vote in some very Tory parts of Llandudno.

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The worst thing - the very worst thing - about using twitter to follow these elections has been the absurd whinging from some of the more... out there... Plaid supporters. Obviously it sucks to lose seats, and it's worse to lose your best performers (Plaid have lost their two best AMs) but that's really no excuse for the ridiculous droning.

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Ah, the SLP phenomenon strikes again; they've taken over 2% on the list vote.

Oh, and all constituencies are in. I don't think the regionals are quite finalised yet, but we know the general picture. BBC project Labour 30, Con 14, Plaid 11, LDem 5.

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Plus ten is nice. And now I have to eat something solid...

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The LibDems lost seventeen deposits, the Tories one. Labour took over 60% in five constituencies.

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So, what next? A BBC article on the general subject. Needless to say the atmosphere is totally different to the one in 2007, but it's also different to 2003; as the Tories finished second there's an additional layer of security added to the victory.

Meanwhile, the Tories have appointed Paul Davies (Preseli Pembroke) as their interim leader. Not sure who their proper one will end up being; the obvious successor having been defeated in the battle of the Morgans.

I've not heard any rumours about IWJ's leadership, though I'll note that he briefly quit after 2003 when Plaid won 12 seats. On Thursday they won 11. Still, who's left to take him down now? HMJ and Dai Lloyd both lost their seats, and so did Nerys Evans who foolishly chose to contest a constituency seat rather than stay on the list.

And that's £8,500 that the LibDems won't be getting back, btw.

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To the shock of no one, Labour have announced that they'll be going it alone for now, but will continue talking to other parties over the next few months. This is the logical thing to do for multiple reasons. Carwyn also made remarks basically stating that he likes consensus politics, but then we knew that anyway.

Anyways, the Tories want the job of Presiding Officer to go to one of them. Dafydd El will not be happy (presumably he'll want to keep it). Though obviously its Labour votes that will decide.

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Actually no. He doesn't want it and is stepping down. Might actually go to a Labour AM this time, though who knows.

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Various things...

1. The new Presiding Officer is Rosemary Butler (Labour, Newport West) and the new Deputy Presiding Officer is David Melding (Con, SWC List). Melding beat another Tory to his post; there was a secret vote.

2. Carwyn's cabinet is as follows:

Leighton Andrews (Rhondda) - Education
Janice Gregory (Ogmore) - Chief Whip
John Griffiths (Newport East) - Environment
Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham) - Health
Edwina Hart (Gower) - Enterprise
Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan) - Finance
Huw Lewis (Merthyr Tydfil & Rhymney) - Housing, Regeneration & Heritage
Carl Sargeant (Alyn & Deeside) - Local Government

With the following deputy ministers:

Gwenda Thomas (Neath) - Social Services
Jeff Cuthbert (Caerphilly) - Skills
Alun Davies (Blaenau Gwent) - Agriculture, Food, Fisheries & European Programmes

This is a smaller cabinet than last time. Whether this is significant or not is certain but has caused the usual speculation. Oh, and it's now the Welsh Government, not Welsh Assembly Government.

3. IWJ is going to resign as Plaid leader at some point fairly soon. Which is not a surprise. Dafydd El has - more or less - already declared that he's going to run. Which is not a surprise.