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« on: November 30, 2021, 01:21:00 PM »

Is it really that impossible to believe that some rich bastard would kill himself once he finally got held accountable for his crimes?

Of course it’s not impossible, but when a sex trafficker who are connected to much of the political and economic elite dies of suicide under questionable circumstances, ones first reaction should not be “well I guess that’s it”.
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2021, 08:20:55 PM »

Is it really that impossible to believe that some rich bastard would kill himself once he finally got held accountable for his crimes?

Of course it’s not impossible, but when a sex trafficker who are connected to much of the political and economic elite dies of suicide under questionable circumstances, ones first reaction should not be “well I guess that’s it”.

That wasn't my first nor my only reaction. I'm just saying that I don't think it's hard to believe at all, based on what we know, that Epstein killed himself. There are plenty of bad people that choose suicide over punishment when they finally get cornered. Hitler comes to mind too. Not every villain is an evil genius.

Also, I have no doubt that some of Epstein's powerful friends took part in his sexual crimes, but I have little patience for all the talk of "This person was photographed standing next to Epstein!!" nonsense. He was a prominent figure, so he showed up next to other prominent people in his world. There's photos of Bill Cosby standing next to pretty much everybody in the TV and Hollywood worlds. There's photos of perverted teachers or coaches standing with the rest of the school staff. It doesn't mean everyone is involved.

I'm open to the idea that foul play was involved in Epstein's death. However, I'm getting tired of people weaponizing Epstein's crimes to push their stupid political conspiracies, which is what resurrected this thread in the first place. 

I’m going to honest, I think people’s relationship with Epstein is not simply one of him being a pimp, but also that he was a network hub for New York rich and powerful, I personally think both Trump’s and Clinton’s friendship with Epstein started over this and I think it’s interesting that Trump broke off his connection with Epstein when Ivanka married Kushner making continued connection to Epstein unnecessary for Trump.

The major problem for Bill Clinton was not his early interactions, but his continued close interaction even after Epstein became unnecessary for the Clintons. But at the same time I don’t for a moment think the Clintons are connected to his death. Clinton enjoy a high degree of protection from prosecution, but I doubt he have the tools or connections to kill a guy in a New York prison and even if he did, I think the risk bs. reward is so bad that he wouldn’t do it.
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