NV Democratic State Convention

[Minnesota Mike]

Looks Like Hillary will have a majority of delegates at state convention.

https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/731528885104349184

1,245 Clinton delegates
1,149 Sanders delegates

Back to a narrow Hillary win in Nevada after the state appeared to shift to bernie after county conventions.

[Minnesota Mike]

I think we will be back to a 20-15 Clinton National Delegate majority, up from an estimated 18-17 majority after county conventions.

[Minnesota Mike]

Btw, cross-posted from a different thread, and from before the credentials report:

I'm at the NV Dem convention right now, and state party chairwoman Roberta Lange just announced that she agreed the caucus system is outdated and fraught with massive problems.  She and the state party will be looking at moving toward a state-funded primary (crowd went wild) or "massively reforming" the party-funded caucuses (crowd booed).

Glad to see the wind blowing in the right direction.

Agreed. Here in Minnesota it likes we will have a Primary in 2020 also. Primary bill has passed the state Senate and is moving in state House, Governor Dayton has said he is favor of a primary.

[Minnesota Mike]

This is another big problem with caucuses. Delegate allocation should just be proportional, and delegates shouldn't be able to change their minds. NV's delegates should just be split 19-16.

FWIW many caucus states do use precinct caucus results to bind delegates (MN for example).  Primaries are still better but having the results change after every step of the process is absurd.

[Minnesota Mike]

According to twitter things have ground to a halt as Bernie supporters are having a hissy fit.

[Minnesota Mike]

I think it is safe to say we have seen the last of Nevada as an early state.

[Minnesota Mike]

I think it is safe to say we have seen the last of Nevada as an early state.

I don't follow.

A state who's process dissolves into chaos should not be giving an early spot on the calendar. Besides rumors are Nevada is going to be replaced by Colorado or Arizona as first in the West.

[Minnesota Mike]

There was an announcement a little while ago that a puppy has been found, and the owner should claim it at the Bernie Sanders info kiosk.

LOL

[Minnesota Mike]

I'm not going to try to defend what some of the Bernie folks are doing (from Joe Republic's account), but I do understand why they're raising a fuss about potential losing a delegate or two. Imagine if it was Sanders who had a  400 delegate lead before a single vote was cast, thanks to nearly universal backing form super delegates. Then, imagine Clinton winning New Hampshire by 22%, only to break even in the total delegate count, since Sanders won all six super delegates. Imagine if the chair of the DNC wasn't subtle at all about her support of Sanders, and wanted to limit the number of debates, preventing Clinton from getting much of a chance to make her case. Then, imagine landslide victories by Clinton in many caucus states were mostly ignored by the media, since Sanders "had it in the bag." Imagine a state that only allowed folks who registered with the Democratic Party six months before the actual contest (which was a very high-stakes contest) to vote, which prevented many potential Clinton supporters from participating, even if they were willing to give their allegiance to the Democratic Party...

Perhaps it's impossible to imagine the tables being turned. It's easy for a Clinton supporter to say that if things had happened in the opposite way, they'd be accepting that Sanders had won, and wouldn't feel as if the system was stacked in Sanders' favor, and wouldn't be paranoid about losing possible delegates. I would bet, though, that many Clinton supporters, some of whom mock the Sanders supporters who act like this (and again, I don't condone their behavior, I'm simply trying to explain that they feel as if the system is "rigged" against Bernie. Whether or not it actually is doesn't have much impact on how they feel) would be acting the same way if things were reversed.

I would have more sympathy for Bernie supporters concerns about Super Delegates but for the fact that current plan to get Bernie nominated is to have the Super Delegates overturn the preference of pledged delegates. You can't have it both ways.