Should people with HIV/AIDS be allowed to handle food in restaurants?

[lowtech redneck]

This isn't a disease straight people get in any numbers worth worrying about. (unless you use needle drugs of course)

Tens of millions of Africans say 'hi'.

As to the OP, I say 'no'; there are just too many accidents that happen in kitchens.

[lowtech redneck]

Unfortunately I don't think someone with a moniker like "lowtech redneck" really reads much medical literature.

As opposed to video game characters?

Anyway, AIDS is transmitted the same way as other STD's; the problem in Africa (particularly southern Africa) ultimately derives from a combination of regional sexual norms and practices, an economy centered on migratory and transitional employment, proximity to original source of the disease, etc.  

The point of my original post being, of course, that AIDS is more than capable of spreading in primarily non-needle-using, heterosexual circles whenever people do not worry about it(either willfully or due to ignorance).

[lowtech redneck]

This isn't a disease straight people get in any numbers worth worrying about. (unless you use needle drugs of course)

Tens of millions of Africans say 'hi'.

"Hi" right back at 'em.  It doesn't change the facts presented at all.

Sure it does; most of those AIDS sufferers are heterosexuals who don't use needles.

[lowtech redneck]

Unfortunately I don't think someone with a moniker like "lowtech redneck" really reads much medical literature.

Anyway, AIDS is transmitted the same way as other STD's; the problem in Africa (particularly southern Africa) ultimately derives from a combination of regional sexual norms and practices, an economy centered on migratory and transitional employment, proximity to original source of the disease, etc.  

The point of my original post being, of course, that AIDS is more than capable of spreading in primarily non-needle-using, heterosexual circles whenever people do not worry about it(either willfully or due to ignorance).

Please read this...

When you already have an open wound on your junk from syphilis, it makes HIV much easier to transmit.

Obviously, that would be a contributing factor, and a result of the same social, cultural, and economic factors as the AIDS epidemic.  It is foolish to think you don't have to worry about AIDS being transmitted through vaginal intercourse unless you have diseased genitals-attitudes like that are a good way to reverse what progress has been made since the eighties and nineties.

[lowtech redneck]

Unfortunately I don't think someone with a moniker like "lowtech redneck" really reads much medical literature.

Anyway, AIDS is transmitted the same way as other STD's; the problem in Africa (particularly southern Africa) ultimately derives from a combination of regional sexual norms and practices, an economy centered on migratory and transitional employment, proximity to original source of the disease, etc.  

The point of my original post being, of course, that AIDS is more than capable of spreading in primarily non-needle-using, heterosexual circles whenever people do not worry about it(either willfully or due to ignorance).

Please read this...

When you already have an open wound on your junk from syphilis, it makes HIV much easier to transmit.

Obviously, that would be a contributing factor, and a result of the same social, cultural, and economic factors as the AIDS epidemic.  It is foolish to think you don't have to worry about AIDS being transmitted through vaginal intercourse unless you have diseased genitals-attitudes like that are a good way to reverse what progress has been made since the eighties and nineties.

No actually.  It's not an attitude.  It's scientific fact. 

No, it is scientific fact that unprotected vaginal sex with an infected individual poses a high risk of AIDS transmission (especially for women, but its far from a minor risk for men), and attitudes to the contrary promote higher levels of unprotected sex between casual sex partners, increasing HIV infection rates.

[lowtech redneck]

No, it is scientific fact that unprotected vaginal sex with an infected individual poses a high risk of AIDS transmission (especially for women, but its far from a minor risk for men), and attitudes to the contrary promote higher levels of unprotected sex between casual sex partners, increasing HIV infection rates.

No it doesn't unless 5 in 10,000 is "high risk" to you.

Its apparently high enough of a risk to dramatically increase overall AIDS transmission rates when condom use is devalued, and that's high enough for me.

[lowtech redneck]

No, it is scientific fact that unprotected vaginal sex with an infected individual poses a high risk of AIDS transmission (especially for women, but its far from a minor risk for men), and attitudes to the contrary promote higher levels of unprotected sex between casual sex partners, increasing HIV infection rates.

No it doesn't unless 5 in 10,000 is "high risk" to you.

Its apparently high enough of a risk to dramatically increase overall AIDS transmission rates when condom use is devalued, and that's high enough for me.

Again in all the real life situations I've seen multiple factors contribute to the spread of HIV.  I will state this again as clearly as possible.  I have never seen in a first world country a heterosexual college educated man contract HIV from vaginal intercourse with a college educated woman who was not an IVDA or prostitute, etc.  It can and does happen but at a far lower rate than amongst homosexuals or IVDAs.  Fact.  Condoms play a roll but condom use amongst college educated heterosexual nonIVDA in first world countries is by no means anywhere near the sole or major determinate of HIV transmission in general.

From our friends at the CDC...



In short you are not going to get HIV from eating food at a restaurant.  The very notion is absurd.

Oh for chrissakes...

First of all, I'm concerned about the spread of AIDS in general, not just among my college-educated heterosexual male demographic.  Globally, heterosexual sex is the single largest means of HIV transmission, and it resulted in obscenely high transmission rates in Africa and (to a lesser extent) other parts of the developing world-ergo, unprotected heterosexual sex is sufficient as a means of HIV transmission to develop into a pandemic, justifying an abundance of caution regarding condom use.  The fact that HIV transmission is facilitated by other STD's does not detract from my point in the least, as the latter are spread through the same means.  Lastly, there have been increases in HIV transmission among young people through heterosexual sex in recent years; its extremely socially irresponsible to portray AIDS as something that one does not need to take precautions against.

[lowtech redneck]

unprotected heterosexual sex is sufficient as a means of HIV transmission to develop into a pandemic

no.

Are you aware that in Africa there was a time when they did mass vaccinations on school children using a single unchanged needle?  I'm going to guess "lowtech redneck" you did not know that.

 

Were you aware that the use of anti-malarial bed-nets drastically increased after donors started charging for them, rather than simply giving them away?  I'm going to guess 'Link' you were too busy slaying Dodongos to pay attention to such things.

Anyway, if that were a relatively major factor, the prevalence of HIV/AIDS would be more evenly distributed throughout the population, instead of being largely concentrated among the most productive age and occupation demographics.  Unprotected heterosexual sex by migratory blue-collars and urban professionals with prostitutes and/or multiple sex partners is primarily what made the disease reach pandemic proportions in Africa.