Protesters attack US diplomatic compounds in Egypt, Libya

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The Ambassador to Libya was murdered.  The consulate has reportedly been looted. 

"Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with."

Nicolo Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter XVII

http://www.constitution.org/mac/prince17.htm

I hope Republicans like you are NEVER in the White House again.  No wonder you guys hate Ron Paul so much.  After a senseless act like this all you can think of is adding fear to the mix.  There are plenty of majority Christian countries that do not have their embassies over run and their ambassadors murdered.  Wanna guess what the difference is?

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The Ambassador to Libya was murdered.  The consulate has reportedly been looted. 

"Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with."

Nicolo Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter XVII

http://www.constitution.org/mac/prince17.htm

I hope Republicans like you are NEVER in the White House again.  No wonder you guys hate Ron Paul so much.  After a senseless act like this all you can think of is adding fear to the mix.  There are plenty of majority Christian countries that do not have their embassies over run and their ambassadors murdered.  Wanna guess what the difference is?

Yes, were are bigger target and we are not feared.  I hope that people like you never hold public office in the US.

I absolutely want anyone thinking about attacking a US embassy or murdering a US ambassador to fear the consequences of doing so.  I want them to fear those consequences so much, that they won't do it.   

Do you get the paper where you live?  These people don't fear death.  What other "consequences" do you have in your bag of tricks?

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A lot of things are being conflated out there. The two incidents were very different. In Egypt there seems to be the proverbial angry mob of Islamists (and not a big one compared to other protests seen in Egypt), and before that mob did anything some social media guy inside the embassy sent out a somewhat lame tweet and statement. Then the mob scaled the walls and tore down the flag, which was then condemned by the embassy. And the local security forces didn't do much to stop. It was a total screwup by everyone, but in the end no one was hurt.

Romney released his remarks after the official embassy comment, but before the protest in Libya.  I agree with his comment, and apparently so does the White House, who put a comment stating that this was not the US position.

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Go back and look at the prior comment, though I think a distinction should be drawn between the attackers, the Libyan government and the Libyan people.  The latter two do not appear to support it.

Give it a rest J.J.  Some guy who was obviously raised in a different environment than you was on the ground in Egypt as things were brewing.  Without coordinating with anyone they stated the obvious that the film was disgusting and did not represent American values.  The person did not coordinate with the State Department let alone call Obama up on his Blackberry.  The RPG sqad that showed up in Libya was not sitting at home playing Madden '12 and only got the balls to do what they did because some nameless guy in an American embassy in some other country condemned the film.  If this is all you guys have you are going to lose.  Even by your standards this is pathetic.

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A lot of things are being conflated out there. The two incidents were very different. In Egypt there seems to be the proverbial angry mob of Islamists (and not a big one compared to other protests seen in Egypt), and before that mob did anything some social media guy inside the embassy sent out a somewhat lame tweet and statement. Then the mob scaled the walls and tore down the flag, which was then condemned by the embassy. And the local security forces didn't do much to stop. It was a total screwup by everyone, but in the end no one was hurt.

Romney released his remarks after the official embassy comment, but before the protest in Libya.  I agree with his comment, and apparently so does the White House, who put a comment stating that this was not the US position.

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Go back and look at the prior comment, though I think a distinction should be drawn between the attackers, the Libyan government and the Libyan people.  The latter two do not appear to support it.

Give it a rest J.J.  Some guy who was obviously raised in a different environment than you was on the ground in Egypt as things were brewing.  Without coordinating with anyone they stated the obvious that the film was disgusting and did not represent American values.  The person did not coordinate with the State Department let alone call Obama up on his Blackberry. The RPG squad that showed up in Libya was not sitting at home playing Madden '12 and only got the balls to do what they did because some nameless guy in an American embassy in some other country condemned the film.  If this is all you guys have you are going to lose.  Even by your standards this is pathetic.

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Link, do you honestly think that...

J.J., the thesis that you and that screwball Romney have put forth is insane.  Seriously, our diplomat is dead.  Give the stupid politics a rest.

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J.J., the thesis that you and that screwball Romney have put forth is insane.  Seriously, our diplomat is dead.  Give the stupid politics a rest.

Link, we said, rightly, IMO, how a number of people in the US disagree with the film.  We didn't take a hard stand against doing thinks like, oh, attacking our embassies.  The embassy in Yemen was them attacked.  Yes, Link, you might as well give it a rest, because the world has passed you by.

Your posts makes even less sense than usual.

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J.J., the thesis that you and that screwball Romney have put forth is insane.  Seriously, our diplomat is dead.  Give the stupid politics a rest.

Link, we said, rightly, IMO, how a number of people in the US disagree with the film.  We didn't take a hard stand against doing thinks like, oh, attacking our embassies.  The embassy in Yemen was them attacked.  Yes, Link, you might as well give it a rest, because the world has passed you by.

Your posts makes even less sense than usual.

Most people understand that we, the US, should be complaining about the attacks, first and foremost.  I'm sorry if you are not able of understanding that.

Your childish strawman aside Romney came out with a statement criticizing a message that was released by an unnamed embassy worker BEFORE the attacks.  Whatever revisionism you are attempting isn't going to work.  While the State Department and the president were trying to ascertain exactly what happened Romney was mass emailing people on 9/11 trying to score political points off the death of Americans.  The guy royally screwed up his chronology and some of the right wing robots went over the cliff with him.  End of story.

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That's exactly what they said, they just reversed the emphasis because they were trying (admittedly without much success) to forestall the threat of an angry mob, not sit in Philadelphia and pontificate about America.

The angry mob with laptops?    They posted it on Twitter and their website. 

The people in Philadelphia generally have sense that to think an angry mob has Wi Fi!

Oh for God's sake. People, even foreigners, do generally have way to get news off the internet on to the ground these days, you know. Or did you sit out all of last calendar year in this part of the world?

You won't make any head way with that guy.  I mean he is arguing a group of people that are pissed off about a video on the internet... can't find out about things on the internet.

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J.J., you would do well to consider the way the original anti-Mubarak protests in Tahrir Square were organised.

The funny thing about J.J. is he thinks the main way people access the internet in Africa is using a laptop and wifi!  Maybe he should swap his Mensa membership card for a passport and leave the social security office in Phili for awhile.  There's a whole world out there.