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« on: August 18, 2012, 08:58:32 PM »



Funny thing.  We have had thread after thread about voter ID on this forum.  I've been a registered voter in, let's see..., seven states now, not including PA.  PA makes eight, I think.  And I've been voting pretty regularly since 1986.  Never once have I been asked for any sort of ID at the polls.   This will be a first. 

It actually states something to that effect on my newly-acquired Pennsylvania voter's registration card.  Let's see if I can dig it up...

Damn, you'd think I would keep up with stuff like that.  Well, anyway, I remember reading the back of it which states that I need to be prepared to show either a federally-issued or state-issued photo identification when I vote.  I read "state-issued" as "issued by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania" or "not your Iowa Driver's license, by the way.  Find something else." 

I must remember to take my passport with me if and when I vote.  Presumably a US passport will qualify as "federally-issued photo identification." 


Oh, you poor ...

You now have to do what we voters in every other civilized country have to do, bring a valid photo ID to the polling place. That is such a hard thing to do ... Tongue

Okay you live in Austria?  I've been to Phili and I've been to Vienna.  They are not the same.  You guys used to have compulsory voting right? I'm pretty sure the infrastructure in socialized Austria is far more robust and complete for getting the people on the margins of society registered and to the polls.

Nobody has a problem with voter id... if everyone has it.  The problem is out of nowhere all of a sudden Republicans have come up with all sorts of weird voting laws.  Voter ID being just one of them.
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2012, 12:22:12 PM »



Funny thing.  We have had thread after thread about voter ID on this forum.  I've been a registered voter in, let's see..., seven states now, not including PA.  PA makes eight, I think.  And I've been voting pretty regularly since 1986.  Never once have I been asked for any sort of ID at the polls.   This will be a first.  

It actually states something to that effect on my newly-acquired Pennsylvania voter's registration card.  Let's see if I can dig it up...

Damn, you'd think I would keep up with stuff like that.  Well, anyway, I remember reading the back of it which states that I need to be prepared to show either a federally-issued or state-issued photo identification when I vote.  I read "state-issued" as "issued by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania" or "not your Iowa Driver's license, by the way.  Find something else."  

I must remember to take my passport with me if and when I vote.  Presumably a US passport will qualify as "federally-issued photo identification."  


Oh, you poor ...

You now have to do what we voters in every other civilized country have to do, bring a valid photo ID to the polling place. That is such a hard thing to do ... Tongue

Okay you live in Austria?  I've been to Phili and I've been to Vienna.  They are not the same.  You guys used to have compulsory voting right? I'm pretty sure the infrastructure in socialized Austria is far more robust and complete for getting the people on the margins of society registered and to the polls.

Nobody has a problem with voter id... if everyone has it.  The problem is out of nowhere all of a sudden Republicans have come up with all sorts of weird voting laws.  Voter ID being just one of them.

That every citizen aged 16+ is automatically registered to vote here is not a feature of Socialism though.

Yes but the public transportation and social services are.  My European friends are always astonished when they visit me in the US and realize how much of the country is inaccessible without private transportation.  They are also amazed at how few services are available within cities particularly on nights and weekends.  For people living on the margins of society there is a tiny to nonexistent safety net.

It is perfectly fine to require some form of ID to vote, but this law is too limiting in what to use.

Sure as long as you have the infrastructure to get the ID to ALL citizens at no cost to them in a timely fashion.  But as these laws are currently being implemented they are illegal.  The FACTUAL data point we have is hundreds of thousands of voters in Pennsylvania do not have this type of ID.  The common sense thing to do is to figure out a way to get this ID to them BEFORE requiring it.  But then that would defeat the purpose.  Wouldn't it?
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