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« on: December 06, 2011, 10:38:12 PM »

Greater disgust response associated with the political right, re: gay marriage



So strong survival instinct=anti-gay marriage

In a Darwinian way that actually makes sense.

You know some gay people oppose the work that is being done to find a genetic basis for homosexuality.  They fear if a "gay" gene is discovered people will start testing for it and aborting babies or perhaps giving them treatments to "cure" their gayness.  Regardless of where you fall on the political spectrum you have to be careful with pursuing science.  You never know what it will uncover.
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 01:57:07 PM »

Considering that pursuing what seemed to him to be science has in the very recent past led Link to voice support for eugenic abortion, perhaps we should encourage and nurture this new development in his thinking.

Take a break from breathing the rarefied air up there, and dismount your high horse.  Join the rest of us in the ditch.  The scientific community and the vast majority of Americans support eugenic abortion.  The fact that you are not aware of that does not make me a monster.

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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 04:50:57 PM »

Considering that pursuing what seemed to him to be science has in the very recent past led Link to voice support for eugenic abortion, perhaps we should encourage and nurture this new development in his thinking.

Take a break from breathing the rarefied air up there, and dismount your high horse.  Join the rest of us in the ditch.  The scientific community and the vast majority of Americans support eugenic abortion.  The fact that you are not aware of that does not make me a monster.



Ah yes. Isn't morality by popular vote grand?

No Nathan.  You made a statement that I came to an erroneous conclusion by following what only seemed to be science.



Obviously it is you who only seems to be following science as I have quite nicely illustrated.  Once the facts abandoned you the only thing you had left was to question my morality.  I commend Jacobtm on posting a link to a scientific paper.  Granted it's not published in the most prestigious journal and probably only barely meets the criteria for "peer reviewed." But at least it isn't a link to Fox News or an Op Ed in IBD.  You on the other hand have only posted distortions and misinformation that has been thoroughly debunked.  After that the only thing that was left to do is sling mud in the usual Altas Forum fashion.

When you wrote this...

Considering that pursuing what seemed to him to be science has in the very recent past led Link to voice support for eugenic abortion, perhaps we should encourage and nurture this new development in his thinking.

You wanted people to think about this...



Unfortunately for simpletons that don't like to think and only want slogans that they can have knee jerk reactions to the face of modern eugenic abortion looks more like this...



I guess you are one of those people that stands outside of abortion clinics and calls thirteen year old gang rape victims "baby killers."

If you have a point to make post your link and evidence.  If all you have to say is anyone that doesn't agree with you is immoral then we really don't have a jumping off point for much of a discussion.
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 05:44:45 PM »

Considering that pursuing what seemed to him to be science has in the very recent past led Link to voice support for eugenic abortion, perhaps we should encourage and nurture this new development in his thinking.

Take a break from breathing the rarefied air up there, and dismount your high horse.  Join the rest of us in the ditch.  The scientific community and the vast majority of Americans support eugenic abortion.  The fact that you are not aware of that does not make me a monster.



Ah yes. Isn't morality by popular vote grand?

No Nathan.  You made a statement that I came to an erroneous conclusion by following what only seemed to be science.



Obviously it is you who only seems to be following science as I have quite nicely illustrated. Once the facts abandoned you the only thing you had left was to question my morality.


I still don't understand the relevance of any of this to whether or not it's morally excusable to abort a pregnancy because the baby would be slow.

There is no relevance to the morality.  That's the point.  You accused me of only seeming to follow what I thought was science.  When I illustrated that my opinoin was informed by and in line with the guidelines laid out by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists you stopped talking about science and just harped on about morality.  I am right on the science and you are wrong.  End of story.  As far as morality...  well I can't link to morality.  I can't go into a lab and produce morality.  I can't get the United Nations, the Palastinians, and Isreal to come to a consenous opinion about morality.  If you are not informed about the scientific facts and are unable to carry on a conversation about science then there really isn't much we can accomplish here.  All that will be left is two people arguing about who is moral and who is immoral.
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 05:50:33 PM »

Link's post contains a lot of the rhetorical equivalent of genocide, it should be noted. Science never is a valid base for morality. Go read Max Weber versus the 'Kathedersozialisten', Philosophy 101 stuff, basically.

I did not come up with the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists guidelines.

I have never had to make a decision about whether to have an abortion or not.  Neither has anyone else on this forum.  So most of the opinions on here one way or the other are just a bunch of hot air.  Let's see what happens when people at random are forced to make a decision regarding eugenic abortion....



Demonize me all you want.  I have zero effect on that statistic one way or another.  Calling me Hitler will not change reality.  All this talk about Link this and Link that is just a way of avoiding reality.  I am not some puppet master that controls the world.  I just report the facts.  If you don't like the facts demonizing me won't change them.
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 05:52:11 PM »

What scientifically provable reason do I have to not come to your house, kill the men, rape the women and sell the children into slavery?

whoa.
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2011, 06:25:43 PM »


Link's post contains a lot of the rhetorical equivalent of genocide, it should be noted.

Indeed.  I'm out of control.
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2011, 11:56:02 AM »

The ACOG guidelines don't recommend for or against abortion, they recommend screening. Idiot.

This statement...



plus this outcome...



can only lead a rational person to one inevitable conclusion.  The fact that that conclusion doesn't line up with your moral code doesn't make me an idiot.
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2011, 12:05:49 PM »


Why do we have to look at the irrelevant oversized GIFs in your signature plastered all over this forum?  Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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