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greenforest32
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« on: June 11, 2012, 06:24:06 PM »

The map is how many minimum wage hours per it takes to afford a single-room apartment.

I thought that map was for a two-bedroom unit?

http://nlihc.org/oor/2012
http://nlihc.org/sites/default/files/oor/2012-OOR-Min-Wage-Map.pdf
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greenforest32
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2012, 08:55:52 PM »

Either way, the government has sat on their hands for years and done nothing about it.

If you're referring to high housing costs, I absolutely agree. Globally, probably trillions of dollars are extracted every year by private landowners. Why should they own that anymore than they should own energy and utilities? Public assets should be publicly owned.
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greenforest32
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E: -7.94, S: -8.43

« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2012, 02:23:01 PM »

Either way, the government has sat on their hands for years and done nothing about it.

If you're referring to high housing costs, I absolutely agree. Globally, probably trillions of dollars are extracted every year by private landowners. Why should they own that anymore than they should own energy and utilities? Public assets should be publicly owned.

That creates a true 1%er society.  1% that controls the wealth (look up "nomenklatura") and the 99% that begs for it.  It makes for a true 1984 society of Party Members and proles.

[modify]  I guess you see yourself as a Party Member -- a member of the "mandarin class" of educated (or at least credentialed) "vanguard" leaders who through your control of "the commanding heights of the economy" are smart enough to create what's never been created before in world history?

I like the part where you explained how the excessive executive compensation, the money flowing from ratepayers to shareholders that contribute nothing to the service, the jacking up of public prices in pursuit of private capital gains, and the basic private, for-profit ownership model that incentivizes increasing profit to the private owners at the expense of the utility of the service itself--all things that unnecessarily drive up the cost of utilities and housing--is more beneficial to the 99% than a non-profit, publicly (government) run system which has none of the aforementioned issues.

The right never seems to care about private costs.
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greenforest32
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2012, 05:27:36 PM »

Did I miss anything?  No, I think that recapsulates all of your arguments so far.  Let me know if you think otherwise or if you have more.

Nobody was talking about or defending a case of obvious local government corruption. You didn't justify anything with your red herring.

It's hilarious how some people think privatizing public services and driving up the average 'cost of living' to $10-25k+/year is a good thing.

I look forward to the publicly traded, for-profit dividend-paying police, fire, and transit agencies bringing us proles further efficiencies.
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