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Krago
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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2013, 12:37:47 AM »

Oops, I meant Kent + Northumberland. Of course, this sets off some dominos. But you can't be linking the Miramichi with western NB!

Let the dominoes fall!
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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2013, 11:52:10 AM »
« Edited: March 16, 2013, 12:01:32 PM by Krago »

And what exactly is wrong with that map? It's not as equal, but it's very good, and is probably close to the map I would make if I had the time.

How many provincial maps have you created?  I can only find a Newfoundland and Labrador map on your blog.
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« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2013, 12:08:45 PM »
« Edited: March 16, 2013, 12:14:31 PM by Krago »

http://blog.geo-tag.info/2010/01/16/free-alternative-to-mapinfo-and-arcview/

http://www12.statcan.ca/census-recensement/2011/geo/bound-limit/bound-limit-eng.cfm

http://www12.statcan.ca/census-recensement/2011/geo/ref/geosuite-eng.cfm
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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2013, 10:46:43 AM »
« Edited: March 20, 2013, 10:48:20 AM by Krago »

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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2013, 10:05:31 PM »
« Edited: March 22, 2013, 10:42:40 PM by Krago »

Paging Dr. Krago...

Scarborough Alternative Map

This plan keeps six more-or-less equally populated seats in Scarborough at the expense of having two ridings that cross the 401 instead of one.  It should make people from all (important) parties smile:

- Jim Karygiannis keeps his existing riding - renamed Scarborough Northwest - almost intact.  Jimmy K is the Luca Brasi of the Liberal Party of Canada.  When Jimmy's happy, everybody's happy.

- the Tories would notionally win three seats in Scarberia, a gain of two from the Commission's Report

- the NDP would notionally win or be close (within 5%) in four seats, up from three

Since the neighbourhoods of Agincourt North and Agincourt South-Malvern West lie entirely within the boundaries of the new proposed north-central seat, it made sense to call that riding Scarborough-Agincourt, and rename the northwestern seat... drum roll please... Scarborough Northwest!
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« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2013, 08:54:18 AM »

Here is another Scarborough option that keeps all of Malvern together and provides a slightly better population balance.

Scarborough Alternative Map - Option 2
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« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2013, 09:32:26 AM »

I don't know if they could do something by trading that Saint-Hubert borough bloc in Longueuil for part of Vieux-Longueuil borough in Lemoyne riding.

What do you think about this?

Longueuil - Alternative Map
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« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2013, 11:14:54 PM »

Here are two more options for you folks to chew on.

Longueuil Alternative Map - Option 2

Longueuil Alternative Map - Option 3
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« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2013, 08:58:08 AM »


I like the second one the best, but there's still some awkwardness. I guess it can't really be avoided...

Do you mean Option 2 or Option 3?
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« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2013, 10:05:09 PM »
« Edited: March 27, 2013, 09:49:39 AM by Krago »

Your proposed populations (including the triangle north of Hwy 132) are:

101,554 - LeMoyne
  97,578 - Longueuil--Pierre-Boucher
104,769 - Saint-Bruno--Saint-Hubert
  95,781 - Verchères--Les Patriotes

Longueuil Alternative Map - Option 4

By the way, there's a gray blob in Boucherville just south of the intersection of Mortagne and Montarville.  That's Poll 18, where the Marxist-Leninists got 127 votes and the NDP got 0.
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« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2013, 08:48:17 PM »

In honour of the Saskatchewan Tories version of March Madness - a full-court press of the House Committee on Procedure - here's my version of a Saskatchewan map that could address the MPs concerns while also benefitting the NDP.
 

Saskatchewan - Alternative

Saskatoon - Alternative

Regina - Alternative

Central Saskatchewan - Alternative 2

Regina - Alternative 2
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« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2013, 08:11:45 AM »
« Edited: April 01, 2013, 12:31:24 PM by Krago »

That map of Saskatoon is a huge improvement. And I have no idea why they didn't draw something like it to begin with; seems so much more logical and obvious than the current proposal. Regina-Pasqua is a mess, though. If you're going to try something like that, put Lakeridge/NW Regina sprawl-land in the Palliser seat and the much denser and more urbanized SW Regina in the urban seat.

You've got a point, but my intent in Alternative 2 was to keep the existing Palliser and Wascana ridings as unchanged as possible.  Your plan would make the Regina South Centre seat an NDP stronghold, but make Palliser equally good for the Tories.  Alternative 2 would leave both ridings as marginals (which is a lot more fun).

Anyway, here's the alternative alternative map for Regina.
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« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2013, 11:40:54 AM »

Part of downtown St. John's had been transferred from St. John's South-Mount Pearl to St. John's East in the Report of the NewLab Commission.  MPs Ryan Cleary and Jack Harris went before the House of Commons committee and politely asked for it to be moved back.  Instead, the Commission split the area, and returned a narrow strip of land below Water Street to SJSMP, but left 92% of the residents of the affected area in SJE.

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« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2013, 11:13:06 PM »

For those of you with nothing to do on a Saturday night, here is the Report of the Krago Commission for Ontario.
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« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2013, 11:46:47 PM »

Now with 121 ridings!

And Toronto gets the proper number of seats, 24 instead of 25.
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« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2013, 09:30:39 PM »

My plan takes away Toronto's 'extra' seat and gives it to Peel Region and SW Ontario.  I also try to equalize populations in Southern Ontario to a much greater extent than the Commission tried to do.
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« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2013, 07:06:04 PM »

Not bad, Looks like the original Proposal to some degree for central TO; You solved, the problem of communities of interest being split (Church-Wellesley in the proposal map and Chinatown in the final map). Your Toronto Centre name is misleading since none of what is commonly thought of as "central" TO is there... Rosedale-Leaside would be a better name.


What about 'Don Valley South'?  If this were in Quebec, you could call it 'Kathleen-Wynne'.

I wonder if there would be any complaints about the Scarb border for your Wexford and Agincourt ridings being moved west to the 404, instead of the old border of VicPark?

Scarborough is a bit underpopulated for six ridings.  If you have to cross Victoria Park, that seems like the best area - and Hwy 404 is a good boundary.

Niagara is still a little mess... the Lincoln riding is odd, NoL is just barely attached which feels like left overs. Not sure if the population distribution works, but have you tried to move Pelham back to Lincoln; NoL into Niagara Falls and move Fort Erie into Welland?

Both Pelham (especially Fonthill) and Thorold have close historical ties to Welland, whereas Fort Erie tends to associate with Niagara Falls.  The Niagara Falls Review is the principal newspaper in Fort Erie while the Welland Tribune isn't available.  As for Lincoln riding, Niagara-on-the-Lake shares the tender fruit lands with Grimsby and Beamsville (check out a Niagara wineries map), and there is historical precedence with the former provincial riding of Brock and St. Catharines-Brock.

I do like what was done with Peterborough, Brantford-Six Nations and Oshawa But Conestoga-Brant is messy, again looks like leftovers being squeezed together. No matter what map i see, this area always seems to be a problem eh.

Waterloo and Brant combined have the necessary population for six ridings, with 5/6 of the population living in the major urban centres (K-W, Cambridge, Brantford) and 1/6 living in small towns and rural areas.  So I came up with 5 urban seats and one rural riding.  If you want proof of the connection between the rural areas, look no further than the Ayr-Paris Band.
 
Cochrane-Superior-James Bay (i like Cochrane-Algoma-James Bay better) and Kenora seem way to small (population wise) at about 47 and 55 thousand... could we not move areas from SSM into Cochrane and, yikes areas from both TB ridings into Kenora, just to even out the North?

Parliament and the Supreme Court allowed for the 25% variance to be exceeded for exceptional circumstances.  Northern Ontario is a prime example of this.  Instead of having all 10 seats hovering around the 25% limit, I would much prefer that those two huge seats be well below the limit and the most of the remaining ridings be within shouting distance of equality.  Go big or go home!
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« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2013, 02:30:49 PM »

For those of you with nothing to do on a Thursday afternoon, here is the Report of the Krago Commission for British Columbia.
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« Reply #43 on: May 02, 2013, 05:47:38 PM »

You kind of have to split up Prince George so that the rural seats aren't too huge. PG isn't dissimilar from the area around it anyways.

Prince George: The Thunder Bay of British Columbia (not that there's anything wrong with that...)
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« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2013, 07:08:35 PM »
« Edited: May 02, 2013, 07:53:38 PM by Krago »

The Report of the Krago Commission for Alberta

The Report of the Krago Commission for Saskatchewan
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« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2013, 11:16:02 PM »

As for Saskatchewan, I like Saskatoon's divisions, but Regina seems random. Would Regina--Pasqua go NDP on this map?

Both Palliser and Regina--Pasqua would be very narrow, notional Tory victories.

Battlefords--Lloydminster: CONS 67%, NDP 27%, LIB 3%, GRN 3%
Cypress Hills--Grasslands: CONS 71%, NDP 21%, LIB 6%, GRN 3%
Desnethé--Missinippi--Churchill River: CONS 47%, NDP 45%, LIB 5%, GRN 2%
Palliser: CONS 46%, NDP 45%, LIB 6%, GRN 3%
Prince Albert: CONS 62%, NDP 32%, LIB 4%, GRN 2%, OTH 0%
Regina--Pasqua: CONS 46%, NDP 44%, LIB 7%, GRN 3%, OTH 0%
Regina--Qu’Appelle: CONS 62%, NDP 29%, LIB 5%, GRN 3%, OTH 0%
Regina--Wascana: LIB 42%, CONS 36%, NDP 20%, GRN 2%
Saskatoon East: NDP 46%, CONS 43%, LIB 8%, GRN 3%, OTH 0%
Saskatoon--Humboldt: CONS 60%, NDP 29%, LIB 7%, GRN 2%, OTH 1%
Saskatoon--Wanuskewin: CONS 64%, NDP 27%, LIB 5%, GRN 3%
Saskatoon West: NDP 52%, CONS 41%, LIB 4%, GRN 3%
Souris--Moose Mountain: CONS 74%, NDP 19%, LIB 5%, GRN 3%
Yorkton--Melville--Tisdale: CONS 69%, NDP 22%, LIB 6%, GRN 2%, OTH 0%


P.S. Does anyone know how to Insert a Table?
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« Reply #46 on: May 05, 2013, 01:14:11 AM »

Here is my attempt to re-draw eleven ridings in Brampton and Mississauga.
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« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2013, 08:17:47 AM »

Where do you define the boundaries of the community of Springdale?
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« Reply #48 on: May 05, 2013, 09:10:19 AM »


Much better. My only complaint is that you have split up the community of Springdale, and decided to call one riding Brampton-Springdale, a riding that only contains part of Springdale and is not a true successor to the current riding of Brampton-Springdale. A better name would perhaps be "Brampton-Gore-Sprindgdale".

You're absolutely right.  I can't imagine how anyone could name a riding 'Springdale' that only includes part of the community.

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« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2013, 09:18:49 PM »

Please let me know which option you prefer:

(1)  Alternative Brampton/Malton Option1

(2)  Alternative Brampton/Malton Option2

(3)  My original Brampton/Malton Scenario (Part of the 11-seat proposal)
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