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Question: did Jesus go to Jerusalem intending to die?
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yes
 
#2
yes, and it's impossible to be a Christian without believing so
 
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no
 
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other (explain)
 
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tmcusa2
Junior Chimp
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« on: May 25, 2015, 11:01:43 AM »

Why would anybody want to die?
Why would anybody want to kill someone else?

Neither of those seem prudent, wise, logical or very nice.
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tmcusa2
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2015, 12:22:22 PM »

Why would anybody want to die?
Why would anybody want to kill someone else?

Neither of those seem prudent, wise, logical or very nice.
If the death of one would save more than one?

You can't help anybody if you're dead. That's my point. So, I'm going to "go there".
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tmcusa2
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2015, 01:25:23 PM »

True Federalist,

Do you believe in universal salvation?
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tmcusa2
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2015, 07:58:05 AM »

Although the term "universalism" has numerous meanings I am aware of only one definition
of universal salvation, and that is that everyone will eventually go to heaven. An ultra-universalist believes that everyone goes directly to heaven and there is no state after death to prepare someone to get there.

If everyone is saved, there is no need for religion and we might as well all be atheists.

Besides if having faith in the right kind of god is a prerequisite to salvation if you believe in hell and since there are many different religions the 'god' everyone speaks would prefer us all to be atheists anyway because the first commandment tells us not to believe in a false god, and chances are if you believe in god, it isn't the right one.
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