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progressive85
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« on: March 13, 2017, 03:26:49 PM »

Russia does seem like a right-wing paradise.  The rich control the country, homosexuality is a perverse sin that must be kept hidden, the men are all about machismo, women are viewed as sex objects, they love their strongman dictator, religious fundamentalists control social policy.  Sounds like the country of every conservative's dreams.

A lot of conservatives really don't want freedom at all.  What they want is order and tradition and strict, rigid adherence to what they believe - and anyone that deviates from that is either a sinner or a criminal or unpatriotic.  Religion is always combined with aggressive masculinity.  Conservatism about maintaining manly power.

The United States is too unruly and too free for any true religious right winger to like it here.

The religious right does not want a free country, what they want is a theocratic state where their interpretation of the Bible replaces the Constitution as the law of the land.

Western liberal democracy vs. statist theocracy.  Religious pluralism vs. religious fundamentalism.

I wouldn't be surprised if Russia becomes the new Nazi Germany and begins to kill off all the gay people that live there.  That's the direction they are headed towards.
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progressive85
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2017, 04:21:35 PM »

Pennsyltucky and Pericles again express their ignorance. Guys, I recommend reading Wikipedia for a little.

Just putting this out there, but you can't really use Wikipedia to gain genuine knowledge on something like this.  I can go on Wikipedia right now and write whatever I want.

In the 2008 election, when Giuliani was running in the Republican primary, I went to his Wikipedia page and saw that he had the biggest penis in the Northeast.  Seriously, that's what it said.

LOL.  I don't get the comment made by Eharding.  Russia is not the kind of country the United States should strive to be like.  It's not a place I think people want to live in.  Conservatives like it I guess over the anti-homosexuality thing - but what else does it have that's so great?  I'm sure the Russian people themselves are lovely and kind, but their government?  It seems so authoritarian and creepy.  Putin is a dictator.  He wants more and more power.  And he'll get it, thanks to an Appeaser-in-Chief in Donald Trump.

The thing I never got is why Trump would allow Putin to have the upper hand.  CNN recently had a commercial - Putin: The Most Powerful Man in the World.  What possesses an egomaniac like Trump to be so subservient to a foreign dictator?  What's going on there?
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progressive85
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2017, 04:38:14 PM »

I also think that our media generalizes a lot saying "Russia" or "The Russians" as if all Russians agree or if the policies of Vladimir Putin reflect all of the Russian people.

I know of many gay rights activists in Russia who have been beaten and persecuted - and that's who I think about when I hear Russia.  I also think of reporters who dare to challenge the government's official line and how they too are persecuted.

I've heard enough about the Russian Government to know that its not anything I would want America to be close to.

I think what America has to do is take it on.  We are the most powerful country on Earth.  Our President should be much more powerful than Putin could ever be. 

It's highly ironic that conservatives of all people would abandon their belief in American supremacy and U.S. domination of world affairs simply because this clown Trump seems to jerk off to Putin.  Both of these men are dangerous egomaniacs.

The United States should have a President that fights for American interests - and any kind of appeasement with dictators or anti-Western governments is not in American interests.
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