Every statue removed or torn down of our founding fathers and presidents should be restored

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Jesus Christ OSR.
Someone topples over a George Washington statue, and you go berserk.
And this, "if Biden doesn't disown (disavows)," makes you sound like wacky Fuzzy. Get a grip.

This. The statue is a symbol. Personally, I'd prefer to see it put back up. But it is just a symbol. Vandalizing it in anger does little damage our democracy, nor does it demolishing the pillars of our nation. (Even if I think that anger is misplaced.) The government of the coward Donald Trump and his Banana Republicans, on the other hand, is actively attacking the real bedrock of our nation: honesty, faith, rule of law, democracy, and responsible use of power.


Adding: There's also the question of whether this was actually done by protesters or provocateurs (either government- or Republican-sponsored). There is so much infiltration and provocation, and acts like this seem so helpful to the right, that I don't think we can assign blame absent some solid evidence. 

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This seems like a pretty predictable step; after toppling anything associated with the confederacy, anyone who owned slaves would be next.

In the end, I think we need to have a view as a society that we can have historical figures we respect despite their flaws instead of either whitewashing them or tearing them down. The end result of this would require no statues of anyone who isn't perfect -- so only Jesus and Mary. Not that most people would accept that they're perfect either, etc etc.

I'm not really sure how we get from here to there, but we need to have some positive understanding of our culture that has enough nuance to see our predecessors as imperfect sinful men, but still worth honoring for what they have built. We need to be able to respect our country and it's figures without complete conviction for everything they stood for. Heck, I don't think the American Revolution was a just war, but George Washington is still the founder of my country. If nothing else, I need to respect him on some level because he is a kind of emblem for my country, family, friends, neighbors, etc.

Washington is on the dollar, the quarter, and the namesake for our capital. I’m sure we can find some more recent figures than 18th century slaveholders to idolize in statue form. I’d support removing every public statue of a confederate or a slaveholder, and replace them with icons from the 20th century civil rights era, or our inventors who made our modern world so much better than when our country was founded.

Might I suggest to Portland these alternatives than Washington:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lola_Baldwin - one of the first female police officers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Engelbart - invented the computer mouse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling - co-founder of quantum chemistry and molecular biology

I'll add:

Admiral Grace Hopper (invented compilers and was instrumental in the creation of modern computer languages)

[urlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamilton_(software_engineer)]Margaret Hamilton[/url] (invented modern computer programming while she was writing code for Apollo.

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The most shocking claim Garrow relates is that King was present in a hotel room when a friend of his, Baltimore pastor Logan Kearse, raped a woman who resisted participating in unspecified sexual acts. The FBI agent who surveilled the room asserted that King “looked on, laughed and offered advice.”

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/04/how-to-make-sense-of-the-shocking-new-mlk-documents-227042

Rumor has it that MLK did this, would you all support cancelling MLK day/and tearing down all his statues if this is true in 2027?

Slavery wasn't a rumor.

My point is rather that the full files can't be confirmed until in 2027, if this was found to be true what should be done about MLK?

I think that people trying to make excuses for treasonous slavers by falsely equating them with other historical figures in a vain attempt to change the subject are pretty vile and should be ignored as they are demonstrably incapable (or unwilling) to engage in good-faith discussion or debate.

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Here's a more space-efficient version,

Libertarians: the plural of 'anecdote' is 'data'.