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« on: November 30, 2019, 05:32:52 PM »

More (opinion piece) 1% hand-wringing about the "dangers of Warren" over at the NYT:

The Danger of Elizabeth Warren.

I'm already a Warren supporter, but the MSM makes her and Sanders look better every day.
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2019, 11:40:42 PM »

She hasn't made any real mistakes on Healthcare except being realistic and detailed. There's an old saying that's attributed to Reagan about politics that "When you're explaining, you're losing."

Well, Reagan was running as Republican, so that makes sense.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2020, 09:18:12 AM »
« Edited: January 15, 2020, 11:42:20 AM by Ghost of Ruin »

There's no way of knowing who's telling the truth and frankly, I don't think it matters much. The damage has been done. It was an opinion people on Atlas have expressed and many voters subconsciously agree with, but it was a fight between progressives, so the media went all in on the scandalous coverage. The left shoots itself on the foot again.

I think this is the most troubling part of the whole debacle. This is a self-inflicted injury, a deliberate own-goal. It's not something we can afford. I'll be voting for the Democratic nominee - something like this won't change that. (Bloomberg or a flailing Biden will be a personal struggle, but I'll do it.) Setting ourselves on fire like this is just painful, and foolish.

I've generally been a Warren supporter, but bringing up something she and Bernie had a private conversation about years ago as a point of the campaign lowers my confidence in her.

This should also drive home the already well-established lesson: the media is not on "our side". They're on the side of outrage eyeballs and advertising revenue. They will all give Benedict Donald unprecedented amounts of free airtime until the election.

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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2020, 11:27:02 AM »

Elizabeth Warren Before She Was a Pol
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In 2005 Warren was far from an unknown figure. She had published widely read books on middle class squeeze and consumer debt issues and her public profile was growing. But she wasn’t an elected politician and I suspect (though obviously I can’t know) had little expectation of becoming one. Certainly she was far less well known than she is today and has been for going on a decade.

So today we’re republishing the posts she wrote for the TPM Bankruptcy Bill Blog (read them here) and Warren Reports (read them here) from mid-2005 through 2008, after which she went into the Obama administration.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/tag/elizabeth-warren-archive

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/tag/warren-reports
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2020, 10:33:13 AM »

She is @ 10% nationally & falling so she likely won't make the debates after South Carolina anyways. At this rate she will almost definitely lose Massachusetts & will probably get 0 Delegates everywhere except Massachusetts. I am not sure why she wants to have this humiliating finish. She doesn't even have the money to run ads in California & Texas.

Maybe she wants to be the VP to Klobuchar or Biden as the progressive figure in a sort of unity ticket. This is becoming Yang or Bennet level stuff & forcefully carrying on despite having no chance.

Perhaps she is staying in in case Bernie (or Biden, or Bloomberg, though they're less in her lane) has a health crisis that takes him out of the running.
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2020, 01:01:35 PM »

I don't think she should endorse anybody until a nominee wins on their own. She's done enough for Bernie basically acting as a shield for him in the debates. She doesn't owe Sanders anything especially considering how duplicitous he's always been with her campaign.

 This will probably help Biden. I think Sanders support among Warren voters is a myth.



Warren voter here.

I agree more with Sanders than Biden. And going into the GE, I am very worried that Biden and his campaign will get steamrolled by the illegal and quasi-legal activities of the RNC (and their Russian allies). So I'd prefer Sanders as the nominee, although I'd support any plausible Democratic nominee over Benedict Donald.
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