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« on: May 16, 2017, 06:20:32 PM »



He'll stay in office as long as the GOP holds the Senate, which is at least through the end of his term. I don't think anything short of a military coup could force him out early at this point (and that's a route I'd rather the country not head down.)

I understand that impeachment would not be simple for the GOP, and would have real political costs.

But I would hope that at some point they would realize the President who has personally shot the party in both feet, the gut, and several other bits of anatomy is too expensive to keep around, even with a high cost for ridding themselves of him.

But it might be that they're waiting for his popularity with the "base" to collapse first, which could be never.
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2017, 07:04:00 PM »

I'd rather keep the senile idiot in charge than hand the keys to Pence via impeachment.

As someone on the left, I'm starting to think it may come down to party (or politics) vs. country for us, too. Do we support leaving the feckless and incompetent Trump in place to handicap the GOP's conservative agenda at the cost of the potential damage he may wreak? Or do we support replacing him with the religious zealot and former talk-show host, who appears to be at least some sort of functional human being (and innocent of Donald's wrongdoing)?
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2017, 08:07:24 PM »

Trump's presidency was never going to end well, but it's astonishing how quickly it's all collapsed

We need to get one of those pre- or post-election "how long will he last" polls reposted.
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2017, 10:26:00 PM »

PS: But are they also covering this story, or just ignoring it altogether ?

the evening nightmare of propaganda is only handling this through "banners" which are not directly part of the shows themselves.

the debunked DNC murder story is for example hannity's lead right now.



Unbelievable !
Why would anyone watch this channel for "news" ?
We have a major national story, and instead, Fox plays like an ostrich (put your head in the sand and ignore everything around you).
There you go ..... instead of "Fox" News, they need to change their official name to "Ostrich News."




People watch Faux (I cannot bring my self to believe the name isn't deliberate on some level) News not in order to be informed, but as a palliative for the cognitive dissonance that comes with being Republican, being conservative, being religious, being a Trump supporter, or just being unable to adapt, while still needing to live in the rapidly changing world we all inhabit.
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2017, 09:51:40 AM »

Horrible if true. But I don’t understand, if true, why Trump is that dumb. He should have known that such a request is illegal and has the potential to throw him out of office. I mean, almost every user on here wouldn’t make such a mistake in the president’s position.

I think at this point Trump genuinely thinks he's above the law and that he can strong-arm people into doing what he wants without consequences. He's had so many controversies that resulted in literally nothing happening so far (since day one of his campaign) that he probably thinks this is just another of them.

Plus with GOP in control of Congress, he may as well be above the law at the moment anyway.

I'm not so sure that Trump think's he is above the law, or able to dictate results, so much as that he just doesn't think. He is doomed as President, and I'm just hoping for the smallest damage to the nation possible.

For escaping controversies, I've read how something similar both encouraged Hitler and doomed Germany. He had so many terrible idea that kept working: Austria, Czechoslovakia, and so on - even invading Poland went well at the time - that when it came to the big ones like invading France and then Russia he was impossible to discourage, because "he'd been right" the other times.
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2017, 12:07:17 PM »

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What an alpha male. What a leader. What an inspiration.

To think that there are people out there and on Atlas who are proud of our petulant crybaby-in-chief.

It sounds like he's sick of winning.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2017, 03:29:12 PM »


I've been wondering for a bit now if maybe the reason Trump is so hyper-paranoid about investigations into his Russian connections has nothing to do with the campaign. (I certainly wouldn't put it past him to have actively colluded with the Russians in a treasonous manner. But I find it much more likely he just took advantage of their attacks on Clinton, and/or said or did a few stupid things in private.)

We already know his last round as a real estate tycoon involved a lot of Russian money. What if it's just that he knowingly took a lot more Russian money than is publicly known, much of it in shady or outright illegal fashion?
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2017, 04:56:57 PM »

since pence is always stating he knows nothing and is innocent, maybe it's pence himself....

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2017, 11:20:50 PM »

I don't like Putin, but I also don't like the Democrats yelling Russia to deflect from the Wikileaks emails rather than talking about issues that affect ordinary people, stop taking the corrupt fat cat money, and stop being so hawkish.

Trump won, get over it.
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