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« on: April 23, 2017, 08:10:57 PM »

He's never had to learn or work hard at anything before because his entire life has just been handed to him. I imagine (hope) that as he learns more about the actual world around him (and that it doesn't revolve around him) that he'll focus a little more on bettering it and not just go for another round of golf like he's on a four year vacation from life.


I mostly agree with this post (although Trump should get at least a little bit of credit for his management of his business). Hopefully he will learn on the job, and avoid any serious missteps in the meantime.

These type of responses trying to defend trump are absolutely amazing to me !
We are talking about President of the USA !
This is not a entry-level position for landscaping your yard, in where the manager just decides to "give the guy a shot" and hires a dude to cut our lawn. And if it doesn't work out .... oh well.

Everything that happens EVERDAY, AROUND THE WORLD, in where our head of state and his administration do nothing or louse-things-up, is detrimental to not only our nation, but our Allies, NATO and the rest of the free world.

While we (the USA) are on "vacation" golfing every weekend, with our President continuing to act like an orange-haired clown, and while his administration (including our Sec of State) perform like amateurs, our (USA, Allies, NATO, etc) status and level of readiness to respond falls, and our enemies just smile and laugh.
No wonder Putin helped put this laughable-joke-of-a-leader to run our country.
Even ISIS is ecstatic that we voted this clown in.

I don't think this argument is quite as vacuous as most of those supporting our so-called President. To play devil'Trumpers advocate (because I am a human being and have empathy, even if they don't), the argument in support of this sort of position would be that with Hillary - who was 100% behind the neoliberal globalist status quo -   as the only other possible choice, it was worth the cost of Trump learning on the job to get someone who would challenge the establishment into office.

Trump's actions once in office have made the above argument into a horrific joke, of course.  He's just as pro-Establishment as the Clintons. He just happens to belong to the faction that doesn't see why the peasants and slaves need to be kept in even a modicum of health and happiness, rather than just encouraged to die quickly.  (As some of us knew long before he won.)

His cultists will refuse to believe this, and twist their brains into pretzels in order to avoid admitting they were conned hugely.

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Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2017, 11:30:07 PM »

He's never had to learn or work hard at anything before because his entire life has just been handed to him. I imagine (hope) that as he learns more about the actual world around him (and that it doesn't revolve around him) that he'll focus a little more on bettering it and not just go for another round of golf like he's on a four year vacation from life.


I mostly agree with this post (although Trump should get at least a little bit of credit for his management of his business). Hopefully he will learn on the job, and avoid any serious missteps in the meantime.

These type of responses trying to defend trump are absolutely amazing to me !
We are talking about President of the USA !
This is not a entry-level position for landscaping your yard, in where the manager just decides to "give the guy a shot" and hires a dude to cut our lawn. And if it doesn't work out .... oh well.

Everything that happens EVERDAY, AROUND THE WORLD, in where our head of state and his administration do nothing or louse-things-up, is detrimental to not only our nation, but our Allies, NATO and the rest of the free world.

While we (the USA) are on "vacation" golfing every weekend, with our President continuing to act like an orange-haired clown, and while his administration (including our Sec of State) perform like amateurs, our (USA, Allies, NATO, etc) status and level of readiness to respond falls, and our enemies just smile and laugh.
No wonder Putin helped put this laughable-joke-of-a-leader to run our country.
Even ISIS is ecstatic that we voted this clown in.

I don't think this argument is quite as vacuous as most of those supporting our so-called President. To play devil'Trumpers advocate (because I am a human being and have empathy, even if they don't), the argument in support of this sort of position would be that with Hillary - who was 100% behind the neoliberal globalist status quo -   as the only other possible choice, it was worth the cost of Trump learning on the job to get someone who would challenge the establishment into office.

Trump's actions once in office have made the above argument into a horrific joke, of course.  He's just as pro-Establishment as the Clintons. He just happens to belong to the faction that doesn't see why the peasants and slaves need to be kept in even a modicum of health and happiness, rather than just encouraged to die quickly.  (As some of us knew long before he won.)

His cultists will refuse to believe this, and twist their brains into pretzels in order to avoid admitting they were conned hugely.



If your main problem with Trump is that he's too "pro-Establishment", then you don't deserve to be taken seriously.

I made the point specifically to point out that this particular argument in favor of Trump was invalid. I do think Trump is a strong supporter of the status quo. (At least when it comes to perpetuating regulatory-capture and other forms of "government by the rich, for the rich".) I'm not sure I'd say that's my main problem with him.

Trump's many gross defects as a President (and a human being) are so numerous and so vast that comparing them becomes like comparing the sizes of stars.  (Only minus the bits about providing light, heat, heavy elements, etc. Although some stars are orange.)

I would say that his being an deranged ignoramus with the critical thinking capacity of an overly optimistic squirrel is definitely a worse problem than his reflexive acquiescence to billionaire and corporate wish-lists.   
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