Fake News

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

The people in the MSM who are bitching the loudest about "fake news" are guilty of trying to spread fake news themselves. The MSM is just angry that people are looking at alternative news sources and that they don't trust them or listen to them any longer. It's a veiled assault on freedom of speech.

I have to agree. For example, the number one piece of "fake news" from 2016?

The pretense that Donald Trump was remotely competent to be president of the United States. It went virtually unremarked by the MSM, in favor of ratings-grabbing overage of his latest "outrage".

Now, just imagine what the Trump-led GOP, already hostile to the first amendment, might try to do in the name of a War Against Bad News.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

The people in the MSM who are bitching the loudest about "fake news" are guilty of trying to spread fake news themselves. The MSM is just angry that people are looking at alternative news sources and that they don't trust them or listen to them any longer. It's a veiled assault on freedom of speech.

I have to agree. For example, the number one piece of "fake news" from 2016?

The pretense that Donald Trump was remotely competent to be president of the United States. It went virtually unremarked by the MSM, in favor of ratings-grabbing overage of his latest "outrage".

Now, just imagine what the Trump-led GOP, already hostile to the first amendment, might try to do in the name of a War Against Bad News.

The MSM and the Democrats want to sh*t on the first amendment and freedom of speech by shutting down "fake news" websites and radio talk shows. It's not going to work and it's going to backfire.

I agree. The only cure for "fake news" is an intelligent and educated public. Something neither party wants.

And yeah, attempts at censorship, particularly censorship in favor of the MSM will backfire horribly.

I.e. people should stop listening to Rush Limbaugh because he's a big lying idiot, not because they're forced to.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

You actually think that the US government should shut down Trump supporting news outlets like Infowars, Breitbart and the rest. I wonder if a trump adminstration shut down anti Trump news outlets like the new York Times or the Huffington Post if you wouldn't be complaining the loudest.

why does literally every reäctionary fckwit get their moral compass from dril's wise man
truly a mystery for the ages

Well I don't think that there are many people who think that HuffPo and the NYT are morally equivalent to Breitbart and Infowars. I think are plenty of people who think the former news outlets to be morally better (mostly liberals) and plenty who think the latter news outlets to be morally better (mostly conservatives). Also I'm sure there are even more who just don't know or don't have an opinion.

The point is that you'd like the government to shut down the right wing news outlets that right wingers (e.g. Breitbart, Infowars) like myself think are better but if any government shut down the left wing news outlets (e.g. HuffPo, NYT) that lefties like yourself think are better you'd probably complain wildly.

no opinion is involved. huffpo and nyt are objectively so far above breitbart and infowars in terms of factuality that they're not reasonably comparable.

Well all four are news organisations and news blogs. one of them still has a print version and the other four don't but that distinction is much less significant than it once was. As for HuffPo and NYT being objectively far above Breitbartbart and Infowars that's a matter of opinion. Its certainly not an opinion I share. Personally, like many on the right, I think Breitbart and Infowars are better.

You think that because reality has a liberal bias. Or alternatively, liberals of all stripes are generally more likely to acknowledge reality (like facts and math) than Trumpublicans.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

The problem with that is a lot of Democrats as well as the Media label what ever story they don't like as "fake news". I think Pizzagate along with the Hillary e-mails are legitimate stories and not fake news.

I'm surprised that everyone just let this comment go unchallenged...

But how do you even truly challenge that? Sure, you can throw facts and logic at it, but when you're arguing with people who literally believe Podesta is running a child sex trafficking network out of a pizza shop and another who uses Breitbart as a source to challenge a fact-checking website, I mean... That's like trying to push an intact bulldozer down a sidewalk sewer drain. It doesn't work. It isn't compatible, and you're just wasting energy trying.

I think the term is fractal stupidity:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fractal_wrongness

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