Justin Trudeau vs. Andrew Scheer in the US: who would win?

[King of Kensington]

Let's say Justin Trudeau and Andrew Scheer are imposed on the US electorate a year or two ago.

[King of Kensington]

Here's an outline of the Conservative Party of Canada "mainstream":

"Big tent" on social issues and don't want to focus on it

Supports gun owners rights but doesn't go overboard in the rhetoric

Accepts climate change is happening (though unclear if they think it's primarily human-caused or not) but enthusiastically supports all resource projects

Very pro-military

Very pro-Israel

Anti-cancel culture/wokeness/liberal media etc.

Very pro-"legal" immigration, particularly economic immigration and puts a lot of outreach into winning over culturally conservative immigrant/minority communities

[King of Kensington]

Derek Sloan, Randy Hillier, or Maxime Bernier would be more your Trump like politicians north of the border.

All of whom are no longer Tories.  However there are some Conservative backbenchers in this camp too, like Cheryl Gallant. 

[King of Kensington]

The better looking one. People STILL overrate the "Democrats would be conservative" in blank country. Mostly coming from people outside here.

The most optimistic post here about Scheer's chances came from a poster from Kentucky.

[King of Kensington]

US is very polarized, and it's hard to know where the fault line lies for rejection of any conservatism period lies.  Not sure many who voted Democrat line up with Canadian Conservative mainstream, probably not a lot.

In Canada the more moderate PCs and more ideological Canadian Alliance merged, and it was the Alliance that was the stronger partner (Stephen Harper was the last Alliance leader, then he won the leadership of the new Conservative Party of Canada).  It seems like most PCs did go along with it (outside Atlantic Canada at least), but the traditional PC constituency has evaporated so I think the decline of the Conservatives since 2015 has more to do with demographic changes (millennials, diversity etc.) than with old PCs becoming Liberals (also Trudeau is more on the left of the Liberal Party, and hence little appeal to the disaffected ex-PC really). 

[King of Kensington]

If they had a vote in the US, I'm sure both Harper and Scheer would have voted for Trump.  O'Toole probably Biden. 

[King of Kensington]

Harper doesn't seem moved by appeals to "decency" and so on.  Unless he's sympathetic to Bolton or something.

He's a think tank conservative basically.  Trump wouldn't be his first choice, but would given that he seemed to get on with Orban, would accept him as the conservative choice.

[King of Kensington]

Indeed

https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/why-does-stephen-harper-have-trumps-back/